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1:10 AM

I HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER

mootinator

System.out.REJOICE();

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myDebugLog("SEFlagNotifications#myBustTheFrameBuster: Frame buster buster added. Thanks Jeff! XD");

Moshe

1:30 AM

@moot system can rejoice indoors as well. No need to call out.

@The Grats.

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Thanks @Mos

mootinator

System.Synagogue.REJOICE();?

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1:46 AM

@mootinator System.Crash(); :-(

I was so close, too

mootinator

2:25 AM

Awww snap.

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I am almost there!

mootinator

You need a slow cow drink.

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lol

mootinator

Mine are all expired because I forgot about them D:

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IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dances

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A: External notifications for moderator flags via email and/or SMS

I have plans to make a Unicorn script which will notify you via your SE global inbox and chat when flags are posted. I have the plan hashed out in my head and briefly mentioned it in the Teacher's Lounge, however, have not started on the code yet. However, this would only benefit you if you were...

Moshe

3:40 AM

@mootinator Hahaha.

Moshe

4:21 AM

Ok, question

nvmd

Anonymous

7:52 AM

I've been using a low-rep alt recently, and some flag behaviour is confusing. Several of my flags have been marked "helpful" within minutes, with no action taken. I doubt that they would have been shown to a moderator yet, as I have flags a day older which are still pending.

Anonymous

It's possible they could have been reflagged, but I didn't think that would mark them as helpful.

Anonymous

Recent example, marked helpful less than a minute without the question being closed, while I have 7 flags pending (the oldest from 20 hours ago). Anybody have any ideas?

Anonymous

8:16 AM

Oh, a vote to close marks the flag as helpful! (Just tested to confirm.)

Shawn Chin

8:44 AM

There's no way to revoke a close vote, I suppose?

balpha

nope

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Q: Can we have the ability to rescind a close vote before it closes?

Sometimes you vote to close something and the OP then changes it to fix the issue or issues. You can't take a close vote back though. It would be nice if you could. Jeff, any chance you changed your mind?

it's also Jeff's most downvoted answer, by far :)

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A: Can we have the ability to rescind a close vote before it closes?

declining -- you can always cast a reopen vote if the post gets closed. Also note that all close votes automatically expire after two days. (and for that matter reopen votes, or any other vote that attempts to reach a threshold -- otherwise, over an absurdly long period of time, say 10 years, e...

Shawn Chin

:D thanks.

Best I can do is remove the "Possible duplicate of..." comment then.

I really need a userscript that disables close and flag until after I've had my coffee.

balpha

I think only the Chrome canary build supports the new UserIsSufficientlyCaffeinated() API at the moment

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Shawn Chin

Can userscripts detect if my USB mug warmer is plugged in?

Tim Stone

12:51 PM

For your up voting and sysadmin-harassing pleasure: Should Stack Exchange be using the X-FRAME-OPTIONS header?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

1:03 PM

Hi all ^_^

cdeszaq

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA g'mornin'

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Hows it goin?

cdeszaq

No complaints (yet), u?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

None that I know of

jadarnel27

@TimStone Are you try to hurt real Josh's feelings? He just got around one frame-busting thing =P

Tim Stone

1:10 PM

Yeah, I told him that I'd give him a few hours to finish that before I brought this up again. :P

jadarnel27

Ah, fair enough.

I believe I've said this before, but who upvotes this nonsense?

David

@jadarnel27 Voting is free and anonymous... Means we take the bad with the good, I suppose.

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@TimStone BAH. Always ruining my fun!

Daniel Fischer

@jadarnel27 No idea. Still two close votes to go :(

Tim Stone

@TheUnhandledException I know, I'm terrible. But a chunk of my job is security, so I couldn't help it!

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1:14 PM

Well same here. Isn't the ability to see flags instantly important to security..?

jadarnel27

@David Very true. I suppose I'll take seeing nonsense upvotes over having to give up my downvote anonymity.

Tim Stone

@TheUnhandledException I'm telling you, feature-request!

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer Haha, no kidding. I think it's funny he got two answers regarding paid sites, and then edited his question to say he wanted free sites.

I mean, come on. At least be specific with your off-topic questions.

=)

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Q: External notifications for moderator flags via email and/or SMS

I'm a moderator on an SE 2.0 site. We've got 3 moderators and a fairly low volume of flags. Since January, we've averaged about 5 flags per day. At any given moment, there are probably zero flags in the queue.* I currently have to check the flag count by refreshing the page.† The site bene...

feature-request moderator-tools flags email-notification

There's your feature-request

Tim Stone

Yes, but that's a silly request.

You should be feature-requesting that they live-update like the questions list and your reputation.

Then if you want them in chat you can just hook into that.

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1:17 PM

Ah, gotcha

No, I don't want them in chat. I want toast popups

jadarnel27

I love toast. And toaster pastries.

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Posting a reply in chat was the easiest way I could achieve both toast popups and mulicollider notifications

Tim Stone

Well, wherever.

Ah.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 Too true

Daniel Fischer

@jadarnel27 Wow, +3/-3 for that one

Tim Stone

1:20 PM

@TheUnhandledException Why did people want multicollider notifications again?

Daniel Fischer

four down, one to go

jadarnel27

@DanielFischer Weird. I would speculate that they're sympathy upvotes, but people could vote for so many reasons.

Tim Stone

Oh, sorry. kills it

Daniel Fischer

@jad, probably sympathy, yes.

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@TimStone Well IDK about other people, but I want then so I can answer MSO questions and stay on MSO without having to constantly return to my flag queue page and refresh

Tim Stone

1:21 PM

But wouldn't you get the toasts then?

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Yes, that too

Or since it's live updating I don't even have to refresh

Also, sometime I turn chat toasts off

or I'm on mobile

jadarnel27

@TimStone Well done, sir.

cdeszaq

@TheUnhandledException Perhaps... Auto-refresh + a userscipt that scrapes the page and puts the number of flags into front of the page title (so that it shows up in the tab)?

Tim Stone

@TheUnhandledException OK, I suppose that's fair.

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@cdeszaq My script could do that

Tim Stone

1:23 PM

@jadarnel27 Hmmm

cdeszaq

@TheUnhandledException But, you could do just that much without needing to do any frame-busting, right?

Tim Stone

I thought that...ohh.

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@Tim really you haven't ruined my fun because I plan on appending my script to start working from the flag queue page adding a button "Notify me about flags" which will iFrame chat and notify in reverse

Tim Stone

Someone must have voted off-topic to another site, I guess.

I was wondering how the question ended up as not constructive when it only had two votes as such.

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@cdeszaq see above response to Tim :-)

cdeszaq

1:25 PM

@TheUnhandledException That would be nice. And if it worked for 10k, that would be cool too

jadarnel27

@TimStone I bet someone voted to move it to programmers =)

Tim Stone

Assuming they don't do the same to the chat server. :P

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This is also my response to @jcolebrand who said my userscript is only good for those who likes chat

@TimStone chat has no frame protection now at all

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 Yeaaaah...and now I should go to work

Sure, but if they added the header to the chat server to it would, was all I was saying.

Of course, even in that scenario you can still create a workaround like I mentioned previously, it's just much more complicated.

But yes, office and such.

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@TimStone catch you later

jadarnel27

1:32 PM

So, this is awesome: Online SQL Formatter.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 That is rather nifty

balpha

1:44 PM

neat work on the frame buster buster, @TheUnhandledException

I'm commiting a buster buster buster now :)

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@balpha Rats.

Are you going to also commit a supported way for me to poll the flag queue? :-)

Also, how much did @TimStone pay you to ruin my fun @balpha? :-)

Also, I should have expected to be thwarted

Daniel Fischer

Awesome answer by Marc

"We reserve the right to be frankly downright childish and puerile if you insist on trying to abuse the system;"

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Yes, indeed a great answer

Also I promise I was not trying to abuse the system!

Just trying to improve flag response times :-)

@balpha, chat does not have frame busting code, I would love to know if you intend to add it to chat as well... because I plan on appending my script to work in reverse; that is, it will start on the flag queue and iframe in chat to send notifications. But I don't want to star work on that if you're about to ruin that plan also

balpha

@TheUnhandledException it may still work, you'll have to try -- I'm just emptying the DOM, so you're still in a document with the correct origin (which you of course could have done before anyway, without any frame busting magic)

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@balpha oh that's fine by me, I don't need the DOM

balpha

1:54 PM

@TheUnhandledException I will neither confirm nor deny that

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I just need the origin as you said; I then make AJAX requests to fetch the flag table

@balpha I figured. Had to ask though :-)

balpha

@TheUnhandledException then why did you go through the framebustingbusting pain (including an ugly alert) if you could just use a view that doesn't run the JS?

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@balpha I am unsure what you mean here... most likely the answer to your question is "I overlooked some easy answer"

Chat iframes in the admin dashboard. The admin dashboard then uses AJAX to reload itself, wqhen flags are found it uses window.postMessage to notify chat, which posts a chat message informing that there's flags available

The initial iframing causes the warning, but then after the initial warning the script works

balpha

if all you need is a document with the correct origin, just pick one that does not run the frame buster

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I didn't know they existed :-)

That would make my life way wasier

balpha

2:00 PM

anything that's not HTML, like meta.stackoverflow.com/content/js/stub.js

anything that's not a full page, like meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/37328/comments

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...that's genius

Thank you @balpha!

balpha

well, thank you :) The 204 trick is nice

cdeszaq

I must say, I love seeing devs of a system work with their "users" do do mods that work around their own "security". The hacking culture at its best

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@balpha What's funny is, I totally confused myself yesterday. I read Jeff's question on "looking for a frame buster buster" and thought, Oh, this defeats my idea...

cdeszaq

Props to the SE devs for being open minded

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2:02 PM

...when he was actually providing me the way to defeat his own code, and what he was asking for was a way to defeat the code he provided, the answer being "you can't"

@cdeszaq hear hear!

balpha

@cdeszaq the framebusting is not to prevent Josh from being crazy :)

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lmao

@cdeszaq The Jabber Chat bridge and ThirdPlace would never have existed if it were't for @balpha's helpful hints to me :-)

cdeszaq

@balpha No, I understand the difference between "abuse" and "reasonable extension for benevolent purposes", and I'm glad SE does too

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Yeah I have no intention whatsoever to make any scripts that have to do with voting, abuse, etc

My sockpuppet may have written a userscript which would make @balpha frown, but, I have made sure that such script never left my hands :-)

Dharmendra

Is is anything wrong if android peoples want to celebrate the Android week by making the same profile picture of the Android ? @balpha @all

cdeszaq

2:07 PM

@TheUnhandledException Third Place is mostly a library for other scripts, right? It doesn't really provide any user-facing functionality ?

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Exactly, it's just a library

Makes it easy to do things like observing for chat messages, or posting new ones

balpha

@Dharmendra I don't understand the question

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	var reply = new ThirdPlace.Message();
	reply.room_id = myObservedSites[site].notifyRoomId;
	reply.content = ':'+myObservedSites[site].notifyMessageId+' There are **'+publicObj.getFlagCount(site)+' flags** on ['+site+'](http://'+site+publicObj.dashboardLoaction+')';
	reply.post();

(like that @cdeszaq)

Dharmendra

Some of the Android developers want to celebrate the Android week by making the same profile picture for a week.

And profile picture will be Android image

balpha

you mean everybody has the same profile picture?

Dharmendra

2:10 PM

Yes

balpha

I don't see anything wrong with that

Dharmendra

Bingo:) Thank you.

balpha

also see this:

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Q: Paddington Bear Choppertar

Many of our top users seem to have avatars with a picture of themselves in a car with what appears to me to be Paddington Bear: So what is the story behind this?

discussion fun bears many-bears

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@balpha Ha! That's great! I always wondered why Chopper3 had that gravatar

jadarnel27

2:27 PM

wants there to be a unicode character for the Weezer "w"

Moshe

Hah

jadarnel27

Asking about that would probably be a very expedient way to get my first Super User question closed.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 I'm almost surprised there isn't. (and I wonder how hard it is to get a character added)

I don't know if that would fit Super User. In fact, I don't know quite where that Q would fit

jadarnel27

I don't really know how to search through all the unicode characters in existence. From the post balpha linked, apparently there's a Bear Face character.

I know there's also a coffee cup or something like that.

cdeszaq

yeah, there's all sorts of odd symbols, and the one you are looking for doesn't even look all that strange.

jadarnel27

2:34 PM

But I see neither of those in Wikipedia's List of all Unicode characters.

It's actually pretty incomplete. I should consider expanding it.

shakes head

What just happened? Damned subliminal messaging!

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 think perhaps you need more coffee ;-)

jadarnel27

Perhaps. Our coffee machine is broken, and I'm experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

Including hallucinations, and paranoid delusions that Wikipedia is trying to coerce me into editing their Unicode list.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 Yeah, for me, lack of caffeine means that I simply can't think very quickly, especially in non-verbal-language settings (eg. typing)

@jadarnel27 Oh, they very much are trying to suck you in to their vortex of doom

jadarnel27

starts shuddering violently, frantically looks around the room

aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!

cdeszaq

Nothin' quite like a Friday morning

(for the U.S. folks anyways. Eventually I'll figure out a way to not be so timezone-ist)

Tim Stone

2:47 PM

@TheUnhandledException I deny all responsibility!

jadarnel27

2:59 PM

pokes @Tim with a large, sharpened, Data-Explorer-shaped stick

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=D

Tim Stone

Ah, yeah. Your feature is coming, but it's more complex than the other ones I rolled out this week so I had to wait for the weekend (tonight).

Well, by "rolled out" I mean committed to my project, I was planning on getting everything done before poking waffles. :P

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@jadarnel27 That won't work. You need to use this:

19 hours ago, by animuson

jadarnel27

@TimStone Haha, no pressure from me. Just figured I'd remind you, I know you said you're forgetful =) And I'm certain I have that awesome character trait no less than you do ;-)

@TheUnhandledException Hahahaha, I saw that when you post it the other day. Fan-slam-tastic.

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I can't take credit for that :-)

jadarnel27

@TheUnhandledException Ohhh, it was animuson.

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3:04 PM

Correction: I tried to take credit for it, but my conscious said "no"

But yes I totally laughed out loud when I saw that

jadarnel27

I don't know how I looked right past where it says "19 hours ago, by animuson" right above where you linked the image =)

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@jadarnel27 I changed it :-) chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/messages/921973/history

When I first posted it I totally tried to claim credit by not quoting animuson :-)

Also, are you going to the Charlotte Meetup @jadarnel27?

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 Yeah, no, good call. :D

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because as of now, I am the only one attending the Asheville meetup, and that'd be kinda boring

Me sitting alone at a table at Asheville Brewing Company quoting SO Memes to myself... lame

jadarnel27

@TheUnhandledException I totally forgot to look into that. Isn't there a blog post about it or something?

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3:07 PM

@jadarnel27 meetup.com/stackoverflow

and...

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Overflow Meetup Everywhere: April 28, 2012

Laura Dobrzynski on March 26, 2012

Last year’s Stack Overflow Meetups were a success, with over 2000 people participating around the world. We’re happy to announce that the Second Annual Stack Overflow Meetup Day is April 28, 2012.

Because the Stack Exchange network grew so much over 2011, we’ve decided our Meetup day should grow, too. This year we’re calling on every hacker, programmer, or designer in the Stack Exchange tech community to meet up with other users, say hello, and maybe learn something. Whether you’re a member of Stack Overflow, Server Fault, Super User, Programmers, Ask Ubuntu, Game Development, or any other technology-themed Stack Exchange site, we want you to be a part of this event.* …

Charlotte's ~2.5 hours away from me... not sure if it's worth 5 hours of driving to attend that meetup, but we'll see. I hope the Asheville one gets someone else

I know at least 3 others in my area use SO, but they may not be die-hard enough fans to meetup

David

The Boston area meetup seems to be really slow going in terms of people getting interested. I wonder how to better market this.

jadarnel27

@TheUnhandledException Nice, thanks. I think I might go to that. Although it seems a bit...social. I mean, talking...to people...in person? Scary.

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Daniel Fischer

Nice list of tags: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/127554/http-post-request

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Hola all

Lix

me too me too :P Hello all

cdeszaq

3:21 PM

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Que pasa?

@Lix Good afternoon! (right?)

Lix

@cde - correct :P 18:20 :P

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@jadarnel27 lol @ "talking...to people...in person? Scary"

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@cdeszaq nm u?

Daniel Fischer

Still too early for a Git Schabbes, @Lix?

cdeszaq

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Nothin' really. It's Friday.

Lix

3:22 PM

I was just learning about pcntl_fork

fun stuff

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Hehe silly OP: stackoverflow.com/a/9945767/561731

Lix

@dan - not really :P git shabs

Daniel Fischer

Thanks

cdeszaq

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA For a "new" "developer", that sort of question makes sense. Now, why they are even attempting to manipulate anything with jQuery without even knowing basic HTML first is beyond me.

Lix

@ama - you'd think he didn't see the HTML before hand at all :P

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

3:25 PM

@cdeszaq lol

@Lix It seems

Moshe

Heh, we have about half a minyan in here already. Can we give a sefer torah to a couple of beers and daven mincha?

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA - Want the amud?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@Moshe haha

@DanielFischer hehe not yet

@jadarnel27 what was wrong with your query that you had to delete it?

jadarnel27

3:40 PM

I'm crazy again. Crazy, I tell you!

Moshe

@jadarnel27 - Actually, I'd say it was popularized by, among other things, the 960 template.

Also, 1024 was a standard width for a long time.

(Before I was working on a 27" iMac :P)

jadarnel27

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I just realized it was kind of an odd question without any context. The answer is probably very dependent on what you're app does.

Moshe

Anyone in here know how to calculate the discrepancy between the Julian and Gregorian calendars, in days?

@jadarnel27 Nope, there's a pseudo-standard. @Jin discussed this once, can't remember where. Either somewhere on meta, or chat.

jadarnel27

@Moshe Thanks for that, interesting!

Moshe

Yup yup.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

3:42 PM

@Moshe well if we were still on the other one we would be about 450 days off somewhere in mid-july 2013

Moshe

1 min ago, by Moshe

Anyone in here know how to calculate the discrepancy between the Julian and Gregorian calendars, in days?

jadarnel27

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I guess I didn't really need to delete it =)

Moshe

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I'm trying to calculate morid hatal, hehe.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Leap year

A leap year (or intercalary or bissextile year) is a year containing one additional day (or, in the case of lunisolar calendars, a month) in order to keep the calendar year synchronized with the astronomical or seasonal year. Because seasons and astronomical events do not repeat in a whole number of days, a calendar that had the same number of days in each year would, over time, drift with respect to the event it was supposed to track. By occasionally inserting (or intercalating) an additional day or month into the year, the drift can be corrected. A year that is not a leap year is called ...

read everything there, it might help

Jin

@Moshe i don't remember having that discussion. then again my memory sucks

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

3:44 PM

@Jin What method does SE use?

for sizing i mean

Moshe

@Jin I forgot what it was, there was discussion with the new user profile pages about the width.

jadarnel27

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA It looks like they have it explicitly in their stylesheet (all.css).

#content{margin:0 auto;width:960px;min-height:450px;}
#header{width:960px;height:120px;margin:0 auto;padding-bottom:15px !ie7;}

cdeszaq

@Moshe Sry, what? I seem to have missed a rather critical part of the conversation... (and it's possible I might be able to share some insight)

jadarnel27

@cdeszaq You missed the part I deleted =)

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 yeah...

jadarnel27

3:52 PM

@cdeszaq I just asked if 960px was a standard acceptable width for web pages and web apps.

And then I thought my question was silly and deleted the messages, but not before multiple people had read them, apparently

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 Yes, it's standard enough. In general, it's highly devisible (making it easy for grid-layout systems), and it fits within the "lowest common denominator" of very common desktop display sizes. So that's why it gets used.

Moshe

@cdeszaq - Do you know about calculating the diff between Julian and Gregorian dates?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@jadarnel27 :-P

cdeszaq

In general, however, with the trend of alternative display sized (ie. mobile / tablet things) there has been a large trend to move to "responsive design"

@Moshe I myself don't, but it's possible that the Joda Time Java library does. It looks like it supports both and likely can convert between them (not sure, never tried)

Moshe

Open source?

I'm writing for iOS, better be able to see the algorithms, or it's useless to me. :P

cdeszaq

3:57 PM

@Moshe Yes, very open. Many people want it to be included in the Java language as a replacement for the current (and very broken) Date system in Java

jadarnel27

@cdeszaq Thanks! That's quite interesting.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 It's been a bit since I've been deep in to front-end things to the level where I needed to be up-to-date with all of that, but I'm fairly familiar with things. If you have a more specific question about something, I'm more than happy to try to answer (perhaps link me to an SO question so I can get me some reps??)

jadarnel27

@cdeszaq I appreciate that =) I'll let you know. I'm very new to web development, and don't really have anyone to bounce thoughts / ideas off of here at my company.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 Well, web-dev is my specialty, especially on the usability and user experience / "what is the right thing to do" area, so I'm more than happy to help. And I feel your pain with not having anyone to bounce things off of. I'm a 1-man-band myself, from just beyond idea generation through deployment.

jadarnel27

lol @JeremyBanks. Very nice post.

@cdeszaq Definitely positive sides to being a "one-man-band" though

cdeszaq

4:06 PM

@Moshe - This "thread" may have some help in it for you. (I would summarize for you, but my connection to their site is being grumpy.

@jadarnel27 Yes, the flexability is nice, but it sucks when I have to do things that are not my strong-suit, like come up with UI designs. I can implement just about any design and I can build off of an existing one, but coming up from scratch sucks.

Anonymous

@jadarnel27 Thank you. :D

jadarnel27

@cdeszaq I absolutely agree, on exactly the same grounds actually. I'm not a designer, I'm a developer.

cdeszaq

@jadarnel27 Other hats that I am forced to wear that I don't particularly enjoy include "Project Manager", and "Deployer / minor server admin". And the worst part is that we have those people on staff, but my funding is not the same as theirs so we can't work on each other's projects.

I hate silos

@JeremyBanks You should have posted that with a fake MTG card graphic. :)

Anonymous

@cdeszaq I was considering it. :D I went and confirmed the phrasing of spells that cost life (to make sure it hadn't changed since I last played), but couldn't come up with a card idea that seemed funnier than just playing it straight.

jadarnel27

@JeremyBanks Playing it straight was definitely a good choice, humor-wise. Very effective.

Moshe

4:15 PM

Where;s the post?

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Q: How do I diagnose blocking in an iOS app?

So, I've got an iOS app which works nicely - usually, except the UI occasionally blocks. Is there a standard technique for diagnosing sporadically unresponsive UI? In my case, I've got LRResty pulling data asynchronously, and the resultant data is parsed by NSXMLParser into some NSMutableArray o...

ios performance user-interface blocking user-experience

cdeszaq

@JeremyBanks Yes, it adds a certain level of reality and subtlety to it.

I think it might be rather entertaining to put together an SO-themed set. (more likely MSO, but same thing)

Moshe

4:38 PM

@cdeszaq set of what?

cdeszaq

@Moshe MTG cards

Moshe

6:12 PM

A crash is usually caused by buggy code.

Daniel Fischer

Or drunk drivers

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Hmm. I've been leaving revision comments that indicate that I'm the second editor when I improve suggested edits, but it seems like that's unnecessary now that I look at revision histories. Is there a way to see all suggested edits to a given question that were rejected?

Tim Stone

Hmm....I don't believe so.

Well, except via Data Explorer.

jadarnel27

Yay Data Explorer!

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COUGHsuckupCOUGH

Chacha102

6:28 PM

Hello

jadarnel27

@PopularDemand -________-

Chacha102

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/…

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/65570

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Very nice. I didn't really care about finding particular edits though, I just wanted to know if it was supported in the existing UI.

It doesn't do much good to write "overriding invalid suggested edit" in a revision comment if there's no (easy) way for people to see the edit I overrode.

Tim Stone

Ah, right. I don't think the UI supports this.

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6:40 PM

Ditto for "[suggested edit revision comment here]; Changes by second editor: [my revision comment]" if I mark the original edit unhelpful for only changing one typo and leaving 40 others plus an unformatted code block.

Hey there, @AloisMahdal.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Booo, why is April Fools on a sunday....

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Alois Mahdal

Hi :)

mootinator

I hate when I get multiple good answers on SE.

Alois Mahdal

I love that "Wheel of Blame" thing, I think we could make use of it in our company: is there code available for it?

mootinator

There :)

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

6:46 PM

@AloisMahdal oy... it is all there. --> jsfiddle.net/yijiang/AYPpF/24/light

mootinator

@AloisMahdal It's a jsfiddle, so... yes.

I'm slow.

Alois Mahdal

Oh, I just found out :D
I'm blind. :]

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It's not just good for blame! Use it to choose whose turn it is to lock up at the end of the night! Which conference room to use for your next meeting! When to have lunch!

mootinator

Mmm. Payday.

Where to have lunch!

I should program it with what ingredients I have at home and make some interesting dishes.

Tomato sauce, spaghetti and... peanut butter!

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand " It's rchern's fault! Oy!" Oh good, it's still properly calibrated.

Rebecca Chernoff

6:51 PM

>_<

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Gonna have to disagree with you there, @TimStone.

Tim Stone

Uh oh.

mootinator

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I wonder if anyone has ever put a laxative in sacramental wine on a Sunday April fools.

Or anything like that, even.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@mootinator idk what that means, but oooook....

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I just looked at the source code, and she's only entered in the candidate list one time. I triple-checked.

mootinator

6:53 PM

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Church hijinx.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

ahhhh haaa, I know nothing about that..

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Bonus points for code review

David

@mootinator I hope not, because (at least in Catholic Mass) someone has to drink all of that wine if it's not all consumed by the congregation.

mootinator

@David lol, ouch

David

(I know because that was my job when I was a Eucharistic Minister.)

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6:54 PM

@mootinator Were you already not going to heaven, or did you just now seal the deal?

mootinator

@PopularDemand I just wanted to be sure.

@PopularDemand Also, if the wine is blessed after that happens, one has to assume the result is what's commonly referred to as "Holy S***!"

Okay, I'm done now.

David

@mootinator That would make for an interesting debate about transubstantiation with the really devout followers. And a short debate, since they'd have... pressing matters to attend to.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

in PHP on Stack Overflow Chat, 6 mins ago, by Neal

cv-pls:http://stackoverflow.com/q/9948830/561731

Daniel Fischer

Too late @aman

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@DanielFischer too late for what?

David

7:00 PM

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA What, you want us to click that link for you? Have you at least tried to click it yourself? What didn't work when you tried? Geez, show some effort before posting in chat!

Daniel Fischer

But I endorse the request

@aman out of close votes for today

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@David huh?

@David what heck are you saying?

David

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA A joke. And a bad one, I guess...

Daniel Fischer

@aman I guess he's pulling your leg

jadarnel27

@David Hahahaha

mootinator

7:02 PM

What's wrong with the question aside from an all caps title?

Daniel Fischer

No effort, overly vague?

mootinator

They clearly just want to know how to encrypt some data to not Base64 or binary output. Like hex or something. I suppose it's missing what they're already using to get Base64 output.

I shall comply, because the PHP API is very big.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@DanielFischer ahhhh haaaa

mootinator

Yay, SO has an answer to point to.

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Q: Convert base64'd SHA1 hashes to Hex hashes

I have a list of passwords in mySQL that are generated using $hash = '{SHA}' . base64_encode(sha1('some string here', true)); I need to convert these into what would be the equivalent of $hash = sha1('some string here'); As these are password that our mail system uses, and we want to conve...

php hash

Daniel Fischer

@mootinator OP wanted to decrypt here, so sha1 isn't working

mootinator

7:16 PM

Heh.

Read as: convert base64 to hex.

I don't care what base64.

The typical bad SO question poster isn't all that insightful though I guess :/

Ali A

Hi, I can't seem to find any info on sponsoring a tag, anyone point me in the right direction please?

cdeszaq

@AliA As in, you want to sponsor a tag?

Ali A

cdeszaq, potentially, yes

@cdeszaq ^^

cdeszaq

@AliA I would send an email to the dev team (check the Contact link in the footer of most pages)

Ali A

@cdeszaq ok, thanks

cdeszaq

7:21 PM

or post on Meta (there likely already is one somewhere) if you think the info might be more generally useful

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@AliA "To ... inquire about tag sponsorships, please contact us at ads@stackexchange.com, [or] call +1 (212)232-8280 and select option '2' at the auto-attendant to reach our ad sales team. Our business hours are Monday through Friday, 9am to 5pm Eastern time zone in the United States." (source)

balpha

yeah, you don't want to send people who want to buy stuff to the developers

that can only go go wrong...

cdeszaq

@balpha All I knew is that if I sent someone to the SE devs, they'll make sure that person ends up in the right hands.

balpha

that's probably true

mootinator

The SE devs send everyone to Tim Stone?

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7:36 PM

That's how I ended up owning 20% of the Brooklyn Bridge.

balpha

and the team@ email goes to the community team anyway, they forward dev stuff to the devs

so you'd just be messing with @RebeccaChernoff

I hope you can live with that

mootinator

That's even better.

animuson

Be careful of her pointy stick though.

Rebecca Chernoff

|:

balpha

> NOT RECOMMENDED FOR SALES. This person may not be consistently successful in a sales role. These scores do not indicate a strong sales disposition. This individual may find it difficult to make cold calls and close sales, and may not follow through in completing sales tasks. He or she may not be motivated to be competitive in sales.

^^^ that's me

Rebecca Chernoff

7:38 PM

no send me email!

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How is Mrozek not all over this? I can only assume he's off generating one of those speech bubble images for us.

animuson

@Rebecca: Is that interpreted as "no, don't send me email" or "no, please send me email"?

Tim Stone

Uh oh, I see my name's been mentioned.

animuson

@TimStone: But we did not use the sky signal so it's ok.