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The "play n games and expect a please rate me popup" isn't going off, as well, "I've already rated you, I can't rate you again, please quit asking me to rate you"

ircmaxell

Thankfully I have a backup AC unit

drachenstern

@Moshe idk, I didn't pay attention. Probably.

mootinator

Welp, my 3 hours of "guess what else you're doing wrong" videos is done.

Moshe

1:45 AM

@drachenstern The rating box has been appearing?

drachenstern

@Moshe only on app launch

Moshe

@drachenstern How many times? Each time?

ircmaxell

Ok. Driving. Will update you soon

drachenstern

@ircmaxell be safe

Moshe

@ircmaxell Lotsa luck!

mootinator

1:47 AM

@ircmaxell Godspeed.

drachenstern

@Moshe oh I hadn't watched. Email me specific metrics to look for, that'll be easier

Moshe

@drachenstern Ok.

mootinator

Migration squad... Attack!

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Q: Programming books on CD

Right now I have to drive on average 2 hours a day, and that is 2 hours wasted for me. Instead of just listening to music, I would like to fill my head with programming knowledge. I would mostly prefer Java and C#, but any books will do. So does anyone know of any good programming books on cd?...

Moshe

...put your trust in the land where your furniture folds to a much smaller size...

...Ikea, building furniture for college kids and divorced men...

...Ikea meatballs tasty, Ikea ... Allan Wrenches...

Jacob

@Moshe Hey, by chance do you have a IM account I so I can ask you something right quick? (BTW Josh aka (unknown exception told me to ask you..))

Moshe

1:57 AM

@Jacob Yea

email me

2 hours ago, by Moshe

yetanotheriphoneapp AT gm ail.com

drachenstern

@Jacob I think it's safe to assume that everyone in this room has at least one sideline IM channel.

Jacob

@drachenstern I had to ask with out looking like a stalker... :)

@Moshe Thanks

Moshe

Sure

mootinator

mootinatorATexample.com -- An address for my beloved friends.

drachenstern

@Jacob hehe, no no, being a stalker would be showing up on his IM list. Asking for his email outright would not.

@mootinator ATATatATATSupplies.Empire.gov

mootinator

1:59 AM

The star giveth and the star taketh away.

Moshe

Drat, I have some Ikea light in my room. gosh, two out of four bulbs are out. Soooo bad for my eyes.

mootinator

I'm taking the day off to go to the dentist tomorrow.

Jacob

@mootinator entire day?

mootinator

Seems excessive, I know.

drachenstern

@mootinator not really.

Moshe

2:01 AM

@Jacob - Shoot something real quick, so I can respond, gotta run shortly.

Oh, no it's not.

drachenstern

@mootinator that wasn't too meta of me was it?

mootinator

Naaaah.

Moshe

@mootinator The star taketh thwarteth by meeth.

Jacob

@Moshe Ok

drachenstern

homegoing, cardriving, pharmashopping, foodeating, dogpetting. I have a long list tonight.

ciao ciao

mootinator

2:02 AM

later

Yi Jiang

> Due to declining traffic and membership, this site will be closed on 3/18 (see post). It is unfortunate when a community is unable to reach critical mass to remain viable, but thank you for your hard work and support. The content will be archived and made available under Creative Commons.

Atheism beta is closing shop

Moshe

@YiJiang I don't believe it. :P

Yi Jiang

@Moshe groans

Moshe

@YiJiang Wait, there is no Atheism beta.

:P

@Jacob - I don't see it. Gotta run.

Jacob

@Moshe NOOOOOO

Moshe

2:05 AM

yetanotheriphoneapp At Gmail . Com

Jacob

please I need 2 minutes :)

Moshe

@Jacob Er, I gotta go pray actually, I'll be back in bout 15

It's the first four letters of each of my names.

drachenstern

It's email. It's nonsynchronous. You have time

Moshe

first/last

Jacob

@Moshe oh ok

Moshe

2:06 AM

Mosheberman.com

got it?

bye tty in a bit

drachenstern

Wait so IM always means AIM to young people?

George Marian

@drachenstern Bah....yougins, what do they know? It's obviously ICQ. ;)

BTW guys, thanks for helping me suck down the juice on my iPhone. The reconnects to the cell tower just wasn't doing enough to my battery life. ;)

Moshe

On iOS walking to synagogue.

George Marian

@Moshe Man, that's worse that reading while walking. :)

mootinator

@GeorgeMarian ICQ? It's all about the CTCP messages in IRC.

George Marian

2:11 AM

LOL

Good point.

Moshe

@GeorgeM I know this route well. It's a short walk and few crosswalks to worry bout.

@Jacob still there?

Jacob

@Moshe Yes

Moshe

Ok. What's your email then?

Fosco

@Moshe this one installed.. playing now.

Jacob

Jacob@(myfirstname)Jernigan.com

Moshe

2:12 AM

@Fosco cool!

Ok. Just arrived at dest. Cya in a bit.

Jacob

@Moshe Sent

Moshe

@Jacob sent.

Hehe.

Fosco

@Moshe when starting game in portrait mode, the map came up in landscape (cutting off part and a big white space at the bottom).. switching to landscape and then back to portrait got it to the right orientation.

Moshe

Ok were starting here. Bbiab. @Fosco noted. Where you holding it or was it flat?

Jacob

@Moshe Hey sorry for the slightly bad email I was mashing to get it to you quickly :) My true LA skills are much better...

Fosco

2:20 AM

@Moshe it was on my leg.. i had switched orientations on the main menu a few times just to test it.. started and ended with portrait mode. love the how to play screen!

Everything else looks good

Jacob

BB in 15 or so... If anyone happens to care...

Moshe

Okay, done.

ircmaxell

OK, so here's the status.

Moshe

@Jacob feel free to rewrite that then. I gotta get to bed on time tonight. I can reread a clear email in the morning. :-)

ircmaxell

The room was a little warm at 24*C.

Moshe

2:30 AM

@Fosco but was it face up, or at an angle?

I've reproduced the issue when it was flat.

ircmaxell

But I checked the other temp sensor and it shows a spike too.

Fosco

i guess face up, close enough to flat..

Moshe

Yea. Try when the accelerometer is more angled.

ircmaxell

So I stuck the backup AC unit in. And will dig deeper in the morning

Moshe

@irc Gluck.

ircmaxell

2:31 AM

Sigh

Driving home now

George Marian

@Moshe Just a minor note about the instructions for Nippon: I would reword the 2nd sentence of the paragraph that beings with "To play Nippon..." Something like: If you already have a game in progress, you can continue it by selecting "Continue Game" from the main menu. You can also begin a new game and you will be prompted to overwrite the existing saved game.

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian The Instructions for playing have been changed in the next release.

George Marian

@Moshe Ah, ok so much for that. :)

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian Well, thanks.

@Jacob welcome back

Jacob

2:46 AM

@Moshe Hey did you get the email?

Moshe

@Jacob yes

Jacob

@Moshe Yeah, Todays been a very bad day, I can't think about much so if you'd like I'll rewrite it tomorrow

Moshe

@Jacob Ok, great. Please feel free to.

Jacob

@Moshe Though, I if you have any quick comments feel free to send them back in a email so I can include them in the rewritten one.

Moshe

@Jacob nah, I'm too tired.

@Jacob - btw, got an iOS device?

Jacob

2:52 AM

@Moshe OK. not a problem though just out of curiosity did you like the idea in general. A simple yes or no will work as I can't even motivate my self to do much today...

Moshe

@Jacob interesting :-)

Jacob

@Moshe I have a new MBpro with Xcode 4 and I have an Ipod (touch)....

Moshe

@Jacob Heh.

Jacob

@Moshe simplified

@Moshe I'm sorry I lost a very good friend today and can't think at all.

Moshe

Okay, so check out my apps on the App Store, please, when you can.

@Jacob What happened?

Jacob

2:57 AM

@Moshe He was crossing the street and got hit by a car, I was the first person on scene and had to preform CPR until EMS arrived only to be informed later he died in the hospital...

Moshe

@Jacob Ah, I'm sorry to hear that.

@Moshe Thanks

Alright, home

@ircmaxell Gnight

lol

That's the temperature graph for that UPS

I don't know what to make of it

another in the same room is the same shape, but skewed a bit lower (showing a peak of 25*C instead of 30*C)

mootinator

3:05 AM

The AC compressor iced over and stopped working?

ircmaxell

I don't know

It was blowing cold air when I got there (the room was at 24*C when I got there (from a manual thermometer).

But I decided to just stick the backup AC in anyway, and I'll dig into it more tomorrow

Jacob

@ircmaxell What type of AC?

ircmaxell

The main one is a hard-plumbed water AC unit

Jacob

@ircmaxell Yeah, sounds like it froze, if you can run backup for a day do it... and the next day you can switch back to main..(my dad's a HVAC Tech...)

ircmaxell

Ahhh

Moshe

3:10 AM

DANG! I just realized what info I had on my iMac!!!! Ahhhh!

Jacob

@ircmaxell If you by chance looked at it did anything have ice or frost on it?

ircmaxell

No, it's in the back of the room, and it's fairly hard to get to. i just looked at the front of it, saw it was blowing cold air, and said eih

It's been running like that for 5 years (well, 1.5 years in its current position)

Jacob

@Moshe huh? oh and clearly MBPro is the way to roll.

Moshe

@Jacob Indeed it is. I got an iMac and then a MacBook.

@Jacob My iMac was stolen over last weekend.

I do want an MBP.

Jacob

►

^^ Fight back :)

@Moshe It's well worth it, even the i3 is a beast

Moshe

3:15 AM

@Jacob Saw it. Thanks :-)

Jacob

@Moshe oh, Maybe crash his dating profile too :)

Moshe

Unfortunately, I can't do that. My iMac was locked. Nobody was getting into it. ;-)

Jacob

@Moshe I have a 6TB storage array for all my stuff

very useful I must add

Moshe

@Jacob Forgive me, but you seem... er, well off, for lack of a better phrase.

Jacob

@Moshe OH Noes, you Mac is all stolen and junk.. Here let me get my celluar out and call the Poo(long O)-lice for you :)

@Moshe Well I saved up for a long time and that type of stuff is my birthday and X-mas presents.

Moshe

3:19 AM

@Jacob Sorry, I'm just a bit bitter, I understand. I have several electronics myself.

Jacob

@Moshe Its cool

Moshe

@Jacob I just want my iMac back. Anyone know of any Mac recovery software for formatted hard drives? In case.

Jacob

@Moshe Well its possible depending on how much your data was written on top of and your wallet size honestly

Consumer software won't fly but an expert might be able to recover data depending on if it was wiped 1 time or to like DoD standards of 20 random read/writes

but the more stuff he deletes and adds the less likely it'll happen honestly. Sorry

Moshe

@Jacob Prolly just a reinstall.

Jacob

@Moshe Well that will wipe but if he starts to add a bunch of data you might be in trouble

Moshe

3:25 AM

@Jacob Right, I know.

Jacob

but good recovery companies will charge 2K plus

Moshe

Sooo tired. Gnight folks.

Jacob

so

@Moshe Same, good night

Moshe

night

drachenstern

3:55 AM

Turns into

Zypher

sigh this just reminds me i left my ipod at the office

damn you @drachenstern

drachenstern

Sorry

See any bugs there? ;)

Rebecca Chernoff

@Zypher go go pandora!

Zypher

yea ... that's epic

haha yea that saved me

until i wanted to read my kindle

but what can ya do?

Rebecca Chernoff

you're hopeless (;

drachenstern

3:59 AM

Ok people I'm gonna try and shift my sleep pattern over. Takin some nyquil and laying down

Zypher

hahaha

good luck

0

Q: Can more traffic be directed to CareerOverflow

Can more traffic be directed to CareerOverflow? Hi, I've noticed questions being migrated from StackOverflow to the Programmers site, and now I'm hooked. Maybe you can migrate questions to CareerOverflow or advertise on other stackexchange sites. Thanks,

feature-request meta-discussion

Rebecca Chernoff

oy

4

Jacob

@RebeccaChernoff what does OY mean!?

Yi Jiang

@Jacob It usually mean 'star this message'

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A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: Oy Origin: rchern Cultural Height: TBD First Seen: MSO Chat, probably in The Tavern Background: Not completely known. Some believe it is the Jewish / Yiddish phrase "Oy Vey". Others like Michael Myers believe "It's 'yo' backwards. [Because] everything is backwards in Missouri.". "Oy" mo...

Rebecca Chernoff

@YiJiang vicious lies!

Zypher

4:11 AM

it was better before she censored her 'oys'

Jacob

Well the worst day in history is finally over

Yi Jiang

@RebeccaChernoff rchern('vicious lies') == 'universal truths'

Rebecca Chernoff

Today was the worst day in history?

Jacob

@RebeccaChernoff yep

1 hour ago, by Jacob

@Moshe He was crossing the street and got hit by a car, I was the first person on scene and had to preform CPR until EMS arrived only to be informed later he died in the hospital...

My friend was the victim

Yeah

Rebecca Chernoff

sorry |:

Jacob

4:16 AM

@RebeccaChernoff what does :| even mean?

@YiJiang I see some syntax wrong there :)

Rebecca Chernoff

drachenstern

Jacob

@RebeccaChernoff what??

drachenstern

Damn @Jacob that's hard news right there. You definitely should consider a counselor in the next few weeks. (coming from someone who has a regular therapist for some crazyshit)

Shog9

I miss popping in here to see John Rudy going on about cigars.

drachenstern

4:21 AM

@Jacob |: means like "uh what do I say to that" or some other loss of words

@Moshe screenshots posted

Shog9

...or was that George? George, if you're there, please remind me!

Jacob

@drachenstern oh

Yi Jiang

@Shog9 I think its @GeorgeMarian

Shog9

I think you're right. John was the cigar guy on Meta Proper.

Jacob

I'm out, much too tired.. night all

Yi Jiang

4:26 AM

Mmmm! MDC is down! Grrr...

Shog9

@YiJiang works for me...

Yi Jiang

@Shog9 Ah, back up again.

Shog9

You'rewelcome!

Rebecca Chernoff

don't fold so easily next time @Shog9!

Shog9

@RebeccaChernoff I'm just entirely too agreeable after a mint julep

Rebecca Chernoff

4:30 AM

hehe

Yi Jiang

4:44 AM

@TimPost bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12745128

> The BBC has issued no such flash but the hoax has caused particular panic in the Philippines.

Tim Post

@YiJiang Indeed it has.

@YiJiang there were several similar hoaxes. One pretended to come from Fox News, the other from Al-Jazeera

All of them basically said we're going to be glowing in the dark

Yi Jiang

Hahahaha

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimPost, so...shouldn't you have left your helmet on to protect yourself?!

Yi Jiang

@RebeccaChernoff We should've never left the nuclear fallout bunkers since the 1970s! Now look at what you've done! We're all going to die!

Tim Post

@RebeccaChernoff Ironically, I was talking last month to one of those companies who turns bomb shelters into data centers about colocation space. Maybe I should ask if they could throw in a couple of cots, too

Yi Jiang

4:53 AM

1

A: PHP - Find min/max in a multidimensional array

use max() and min() functions of php.

homework question - maybe using PHP isn't such a good idea pedagogically speaking - too many built in functions for this sort of thing :P

Shog9

This is my problem with most popular platforms. The same ginormous stdlibs that make them attractive to working programmers end up getting in the way of learning.

Tim Post

I have a love / hate relationship with PHP

On the one hand, I love that I can compile it to have exactly what I need, and not much else. On the other hand, I hate that I have to compile it task specifically just to get rid of the bloat

Tim Stone

5:17 AM

has successfully reclaimed part of the Homefront from the Korean invaders

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Ooo... Homefront's out already?

Tim Stone

There was a blurb in the game that mentioned that the Koreans attacked a nuclear plant in Japan as part of their invasion, and the radioactive fallout caused a mass exodus of people...go figure.

Yeah, apparently it came out yesterday. I went to the store and decided to buy some games while I was there, good timing on my part it seems.

Yi Jiang

Shogun 2: Total War also came out on the 15th, hmmm...

Tim Stone

Homefront was decent, but the gameplay was more buggy than I would have liked. Mostly concerning the team mate A.I., of course.

Benjol

5:43 AM

@Shog9 I think it might have been George. If it was whiskey it was George, that's for certain :)

Tim Post

I have got to just face the fact that I completely suck at designing web pages and just stick to system services. Sucks when you actually want to make a site though.

Benjol

@TimPost, yup, "lookologie" is not something I excel at either. Ask @YiJiang :)

Yi Jiang

Eh, I see that @Jin is here - go ask him instead :P