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drachenstern

3:00 AM

@nebukadnezzar I post crap all the time marked discussion and I get NO discussion

@TimStone I think you're 27-28 no?

we can always take this offline ;)

I do have an easily guessable gmail address, and we do have WwF

speaking of which ...

oh, haha, I did already contribute to this discussion :|

nebukadnezzar

@drachenstern yeah, i agree that the question is pretty crappy indeed, but somehow i just felt the urge to post it nevertheless :(

drachenstern

well so to be fair, you are aware that downvotes on MSO mean something totally other than downvotes on SO right?

nebukadnezzar

I've certainly learned 'my lesson' regarding posting stuff on MSO, though :P

Tim Stone

Retaliatory down voting isn't that prevalent actually. I'm sure it happens, but in most cases people react harshly in detectable ways, which are dealt with by the system. People usually down vote because of lack of clarity or completeness in answers, or just general inaccuracies.

drachenstern

Just making sure you've gotten Full Disclosure

@TimStone indeed.

nebukadnezzar

3:02 AM

@drachenstern yeah, i've understood that

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I'm younger than you, anyway ;)

drachenstern

@nebukadnezzar why? You've got to push on the MSO crowd to get any response

@TimStone well yeah, but I hear dirt is too ;)

I like what Shog added

nebukadnezzar

@drachenstern well, i hardly ever get any reason to post on MSO, so I guess it's cool

drachenstern

and yet here you are

nebukadnezzar

hey, it was my first question :P

drachenstern

3:03 AM

So post another ;)

nebukadnezzar

when I get a (good) reason to post one, I will.. but so far, i'll rather not :P

drachenstern

well I have 11 on MSO and like umpteen dozen on SO

See, I wanted a discussion on this one and got NOTHING:

nebukadnezzar

my rep is fairly small, but only because i usually don't post answers, only questions

drachenstern

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Q: Should "virus source" questions be deleted outright?

In regards to this post: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4174865 What, if anything, should be done with questions which post source-code that are really virii? Should the user account be deleted as well? I'm all for studying virii, but there's a bit of active discussion when one is studying ...

discussion

So if I were you I would be happy I got a discussion, short as it was ;)

Tim Stone

Didn't Marc nuke the code from orbit or something? :P

Moshe

3:05 AM

@drachenstern - Actually, remember gravityboy, from the null vote question?

drachenstern

of course

nebukadnezzar

ah, haha, well nice one :P

drachenstern

@TimStone I think he did

Moshe

Well he is still going at it.

5

A: Vote up, down and null (zero)?

Erm, bad idea. Not everyone has time to "null" things. Also, once you null, you can't undo it after a period of time. That would severely cripple the voting system. I vote no.

drachenstern

@nebukadnezzar sadly you don't get to see the actual question

Moshe

3:06 AM

He asks: "Why are you doing this?"

drachenstern

It was a windows copy-n-paste virus

nebukadnezzar

question to what?

Moshe

I politely (well, more politely than I wanted to be) have been responding to his queries.

nebukadnezzar

@drachenstern ooh, i see

Tim Stone

@Moshe shakes head

Moshe

3:07 AM

He has 10 downvotes (mine being the tenth) and I have 5 upvotes. He insists on babbling about the null vote thing again.

@TimStone - What should I do?

drachenstern

@Moshe so here's the thing. It's called the "high road" and it means "sometimes you stop answering them, and refer them to a mod if they have further (and further, and further) posts for you"

Moshe

@drachenstern - Okay, fair enough.

Tim Stone

@Moshe I dunno, I don't get what the OP's point is.

Moshe

Who is a mod to refere them to?

Tim Stone

(which is what I was shaking my head at, not you)

Moshe

3:08 AM

Oh, ok.

drachenstern

Who here is a mod on MSO?

Moshe

@drachenstern - I only mentioned it because you were discussing long conversations on MSO.

drachenstern

For now say: "I'm sorry that we disagree, I feel that I've made my points clearly. I'm sorry that I'm not able to express myself, I really don't know what else to say" because that ends it. Then if he posts several more times, say "We need an intermediary, can we ask ____ to help" and at that point we can suggest you a mod

@Moshe no indeed. It's fine, I want to help you end this one ;)

Moshe

@drachenstern - Thanks. I appreciate it.

Tim Stone

I'd personally just not comment, but I'm lazy like that. ;)

Also, that question has ten down votes? Heh

You always know you have a flop when it gets down voted into oblivion.

drachenstern

3:11 AM

@TimStone he's been playing the fish for a couple days, better to point out that he's leaving the convo, keeps it from being very rude

Tim Stone

Ah, you're trying to be polite. I see your game. ;)

Moshe

@drachenstern - True. I'd copy and paste but Mac hasn't let me copy in Chat since day 1.

@TimStone - I prefere to keep it that way.

drachenstern

@Moshe that's so silly tho :( ... do you have Chrome (or a variant thereof?)

Moshe

Yea

drachenstern

then inspect element and command-c

Moshe

3:13 AM

Oh, another response. Going to select, right click..., copy....

Done.

@drachenstern - now, about that copy issue,

<div class="content">then inspect element and command-c</div>

drachenstern

lol, looked like it copied well there ;)

Moshe

from the console

not from the webpage

Huh?

lol, looked like it copied well there ;)

Wow.

Cool!

Must be a safari bug

drachenstern

may be

Moshe

So I finished implementing part 1 of that algo i discussed yesterday

time to create the parsha chart and do the compare

drachenstern

Cool

Moshe

3:18 AM

@drachenstern - He's persisting...

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A: Vote up, down and null (zero)?

Not such a great idea. Not everyone has time to "null" things. Also, once you null, you can't undo it after a period of time. That would severely cripple the voting system. I vote no.

drachenstern

Ignore for now

Moshe

done

:D

drachenstern

;)

Additionally, he's been shown that we all frequent the chat rooms, he's been given a direct link, so if he's really observant and not just a savant then he'll come in here and see if you're around.

Moshe

Heh.

drachenstern

heh

Moshe

3:21 AM

I just wish someone would remove the word stalker from the question.

drachenstern

You sir, have an issue with things that you feel need to be redacted :p

Moshe

Indeed.

drachenstern

It's too late, it's already in the source

Moshe

Eh.

@RebeccaChernoff - Can we get the userscripts to replace the word "removed" with the word "redacted"? It's so much cooler.

drachenstern

lol

Moshe

3:22 AM

@drachenstern - but it doesn't need to be on the main title

drachenstern

why don't you fork the library and gen a diff for it?

Yi Jiang

@Moshe Eh... totally unuseful. @RebeccaChernoff will smack you on the head if you actually try to commit that :P

Moshe

@drachenstern If I knew how. I can't even copy a website into git...

I have a folder full of source code and a repo. I want the folder to be the repo. I can't get it to work.

drachenstern

@Moshe I think you have other issues ;) ... you should read up on git, it's wonderful.

Moshe

@YiJiang - Useful? It is.

@drachenstern - gee thanks :P

drachenstern

3:24 AM

@YiJiang he could always fork it for himself ;)

Moshe

@drachenstern - I'd never do that. I wouldn't want to maintain javascript for life.

drachenstern

@Moshe well idk what to say ... you can't copy and paste from Safari, you can't get git to work on your box ... hmmm

@Moshe why not? that's the point

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Meh. GM let's you modify the scripts in-place, although any updates will of course wipe them out

drachenstern

@Moshe you misunderstand the concept of "personal fork"

Yi Jiang

I use git when I actually want something to be changed in the main repo

Moshe

3:25 AM

I could just make my own userscript.

I misunderstand git altogether.

Tim Stone

@YiJiang Ah right, you have an outstanding pull request too don't you...

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Small improvements to the main SEChatMod script, and a complete rewrite of the faviconizer thingadongdong

drachenstern

@Moshe what do you understand about git?

Moshe

That it's a source code repository control mechanism

Yi Jiang

It now uses <canvas> to do the thing, which makes things much much better

Moshe

3:26 AM

You can commit changes to a repository.

Tim Stone

Yeah, I saw the commit message. Nice! :)

drachenstern

@Moshe it's more than just a source code repository control mechanism.

Moshe

and others can copy your code from public repositories and request that you incorporate those changes

drachenstern

it's primary benefit/importance is that it's distributed

Yi Jiang

@Moshe You're on OSX, right? You'll probably need to get the relevant binaries if you want to work with git

Moshe

3:27 AM

I couldn't figure out how to get it to work though

@YiJiang - yes, OSX, but I have git.

So how do I create a repo from a folder full of source code files?

I know the theory, i don't know the git commands

Yi Jiang

@Moshe git init I think

drachenstern

well with Hg on Windows I right click the folder and say "create repo"

Yi Jiang

@Moshe Read the man pages?

Moshe

right... and then...

drachenstern

but I'm using tortoiseHg ;)

does mac have anything like tortoise?

Tim Stone

3:29 AM

@drachenstern Me too! ;)

Moshe

@drachenstern - I'm on Mac. Gonna look

drachenstern

tim I'm gonna rematch, ok?

Tim Stone

Though I have to switch to command line for dealing with GitHub, since apparently TortoiseHg isn't cool enough to figure out how to handle my SSH connection.

Sure, I'm down.

drachenstern

I have to switch to command line for merges

Moshe

@TimStone - So I do git init in the folder, now how do I upload everything? How does it know which repo to send it to?

drachenstern

3:31 AM

are you creating a repo or cloning one?

cloning lets you upload

Moshe

creating

drachenstern

creating means others upload to you

Moshe

Oh, well I've made a repo on my git account

Tim Stone

Did you read the help for creating a repo?

It has the commands for after you create the repo on GitHub

Moshe

@TimStone - yea, didn't work.

Let me try again.

Tim Stone

3:34 AM

What was I doing? Oh right, removing the damn notifications from the userscript :P

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone No you weren't.

Tim Stone

You did already? :p

Ah, you did!

Rebecca Chernoff

<lazy>I cheated. I did a commit but didn't do the pull requests.

Moshe

q:p

^_ Lord Voldemort and Professor Quirrel sticking out their tounges.

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff I'll grab those, thanks for removing the notifications. :)

Yi Jiang

3:37 AM

@Moshe Negative. That's actually the @RebeccaChernoff compatible version of :P which we all should be using so that she doesn't have to bend her neck 180° to understand them

Moshe

@YiJiang - No, then why does it stick out BOTH ways?

It actually is the @RebeccaChernoff everyone else compatible version of q:

Yi Jiang

@Moshe So that she can understand them! There's only a single pair of eyes, of course, to avoid repetition.

Moshe

Ok, you win.

I'll bet @RebeccaChernoff played Darth Maul in Star Wars and needed the double light-saber for the same reason so they wrote it into the script.

drachenstern

That would be Darth Maul

Moshe

@drachenstern - True, my bad, it's been too long.

drachenstern

3:41 AM

Not to detract from the work being done on leisure activities, but @TimStone and @RebeccaChernoff it's your turns :p (altho against rchern I might as well forfeit)

@Moshe it has been at least four years since I've watched that video

Moshe

What are we playing?

Yi Jiang

Nov 17 '10 at 15:55, by Yi Jiang

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Tim Stone

I was plotting my next move against Jin ;)

Yi Jiang

Way ahead of you there

Moshe

@drachenstern @TimStone - What are we playing?

drachenstern

3:42 AM

Words With Friends, but of course

Moshe

?

drachenstern

@YiJiang lol

I absolutely can't win against Jin I think

Moshe

@drachenstern - ...Wait for it... What's that?

drachenstern

Tim and I are a good match overall, we're pretty even

Rebecca Chernoff

I've discovered another horribly addicting iPhone game.

drachenstern

3:43 AM

Cut the rope?

Angry Birds?

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Uh oh :P

drachenstern

Fruit Ninja?

Tim Stone

Don't you start a new job tomorrow? ;)

Yi Jiang

Haha

drachenstern

Just about anything on the app store?

Moshe

3:44 AM

@drachenstern - nope.

drachenstern

LineUp

Rebecca Chernoff

Nah, I already have Angry Birds. Meh, it is ok.

drachenstern

@Moshe those really weren't to you :p

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone I do. (:

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff apparently you haven't beaten it then?

Rebecca Chernoff

3:44 AM

Drop7.

drachenstern

oh dear, should we ignore it?

Tim Stone

Better limit those distractions while you still can then, heheh :P

Moshe

My app, Uncle Fred, technically a game is not all addictive.

drachenstern

is it MultiPlayer?

Moshe

It's not even fun.

But, you should check out my apps.

drachenstern

3:45 AM

Then why would you advert it?

Moshe

Because I made it?

Rebecca Chernoff

No, it isn't multi-player.

It is like Tetris...and kind of Sudoku I guess?

Moshe

It was my first app and it was fun to make.

Tim Stone

O_o

drachenstern

I agree with Tim ... Oo

Tetris and sudoku? I think I should

Rebecca Chernoff

3:46 AM

@TimStone My suggestion would be to do the pull request FIRST lmao

Moshe

I'm with @RebeccaChernoff ... oO

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, yeah. ;) Hahah

Moshe

Downloading Words With Friends now... Is it Game Center enabled?

drachenstern

let's see if this pastes ...

(Ó_ò) ̿ ̿ ̿̿¨̿̿\̵͇̿̿\=(ò_ó)

Guess not ... on FB it looks like a mugging

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Not quite

drachenstern

3:47 AM

@Moshe it is

Moshe

Same here.

@drachenstern - is that how you're all playing?

drachenstern

@YiJiang I see that

@Moshe well, via ingame play, you'll see

bear in mind that my twitter id is hard to figure out

Moshe

:

drachenstern

(as is my game ID I think)

Tim Stone

Hahah

Moshe

3:48 AM

(Couldn't decide which way to stick out my tounge, so I didn't)

Tim Stone

Hmm, I refuse to believe that I can't play all these letters at once..

Moshe

q:p

Wow, the close button on the "invite friends" is terribly small

It violates Apple HIG, being that small.

So I invite people via Twitter?

drachenstern

I forget, I think everyone invited me :p

Moshe

found you

ok how to play?

drachenstern

I bet they have a screen for that

newtoyinc.com/wordswithfriends/support/…

Moshe

3:53 AM

yea, it's called safari

ur turn

@drachenstern - your turn

drachenstern

That's the best you could do?

@Moshe yes I gathered that from :423723

Moshe

Well, I was not sure i was even playing properly.

got git runnig

drachenstern

Yatta!

Moshe

WWF is "sending"

drachenstern

Time to walk the dogs, bbiab

Moshe

3:57 AM

ok

drachenstern

Oh Tim ... grrrr

Tim Stone

Ah, I did good? :P

drachenstern

And I go and expose you for a TW ... go me

Tim Stone

I wanted to play all of my letters, but apparently "CLITTERS" isn't a word.

drachenstern

This TW brought to you courtesy your friendly neighborhood Silver Platter dealer.

Tim Stone

3:59 AM

Much to my disappointment.

drachenstern

lol

Moshe

@drachenstern nobody explained the rules to me and the game froze up. Yay! last gen ipod touch ftw!

drachenstern

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Q: C# generic collections

I'm coming to C# from a Java background and keep bumping in to the same sort of problem with generics that would be trivial to solve in Java. Given the classes: interface IUntypedField { } class Field<TValue> : IUntypedField { } interface IFieldMap { void Put<TValue>(Field<T...

c# generics

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