Tavern on the Meta

Tim Stone

6:00 PM

@JesseHartwick Yeah, those people are dangerously insane.

Rebecca Chernoff

@TylerChacha, I'm not sure why you assume that if you get a downvote it came from me. I wasn't even at my computer. >_<

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Minor details ;)

Lance Roberts

Wow, 2nd bounty put on this question by others:

31

Q: Bring back the 'oldest' sort order for answers

Please bring back the oldest sort order for answers, I think we can deal with four different types of sort order. It's helpful if you don't want to have to tool-tip every post to see which got posted first, so that you can upvote the oldest answer when answers duplicate each other. Edit: Also,...

Jesse Hartwick

@LanceRoberts That's because it's a good suggestion.

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff One was from me; I was a little insulted I wasn't automatically blamed

Rebecca Chernoff

6:09 PM

Hehe

Michael Mrozek

Necromancer! Score

Jesse Hartwick

@MichaelMrozek Congrats! That's got to be hard to get.

Lance Roberts

Wow, that's one of the harder ones to get.

Jesse Hartwick

4th or 5th hardest, yeah.

Tyler Chacha

status-thingadongdong

Coding Gorilla

6:12 PM

anyone else getting a YSOD on chat.stackoverflow.com ?

Jesse Hartwick

@CodingGorilla Looks fine to me.

Tim Stone

@CodingGorilla Seems alright on my end.

Coding Gorilla

Odd.. I get a YSOD, I was just in it a few minutes ago

Rebecca Chernoff

Hmm. I might actually hit the rep cap on MSO today.

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff I was just thinking that; I'm pretty close too

Rebecca Chernoff

6:14 PM

Though now that I've mentioned that I'm sure y'all are switching windows to downvote me. >_<

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff I need to find more bugs to diagnose so I can catch up :p

Rebecca Chernoff

I need 40 or 50 more I think. So still a decent amount to go.

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff I'll make a deal -- you go upvote 5 of my answers, and I'll let you know what it feels like to hit the cap

Rebecca Chernoff

LOL

I have hit it on WA and MSO once each. (:

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff I'll make you a better deal. You go hack Rovio, and make it log into the unsecured server and force @MichaelMrozek to give me a huge bounty.

Michael Mrozek

6:17 PM

I don't think I've ever hit it on MSO. I crave the badge

Fosco

/me gloats. rep cap was exceeded on 11 days

Michael Mrozek

Oh, never mind, I have. Well now my motivation is gone

@Fosco I have 23 on SO :)

Tim Stone

I exceeded it on two days on SO, but it lies as says it only happened once.

Fosco

@MichaelMrozek Nice

Jesse Hartwick

@MichaelMrozek I'm jealous. I just got my fourth today.

radp

6:19 PM

I have 0 on StackOverflow too!

My reps are all mine.

Fosco

visited 188 days, 171 consecutive

radp

Community can't has rep from me. Nuh uh.

balpha

programmers.stackexchange.com

radp

yay for html5

Tim Stone

Yay design

Jesse Hartwick

6:20 PM

@Fosco 562 days, 92 consecutive

I have Fanatic though, so I've gone at least 100 before

drachenstern

@TimStone never trust the data, right? :p

@Jin nice layout! Looks great

Michael Mrozek

I had 177, and then lost it T_T. I have 208 on meta though

Rebecca Chernoff

Hrm, wait. I don't have Mortarboard on Meta.

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I actually think that Jeff's explanation of how it works on Meta was slightly off. :P

There was a >= that I suspect is really just a >

@RebeccaChernoff Didn't you say that you got that the other week? Or was that somewhere else?

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone The only thing I can find is this from two months ago:

Oct 24 at 20:54, by sepp2k

Heh, I just got Mortarboard on meta...

Rebecca Chernoff

6:25 PM

I could have sworn I did on Meta. Rep audit doesn't list a 200 day, but my rep audit also has a 150 rep drop if I do a recalc, so that could be why...but Mortarboard doesn't get taken away does it?

Michael Mrozek

I don't think so

Rebecca Chernoff

@Jin, one less beta icon! Love the programmers design!

oh well shrugs

Michael Mrozek

itches for a migration target

balpha

programmers.se added to Not a Real Question

Fosco

@JesseHartwick wow, nice!

Rebecca Chernoff

6:29 PM

@jonskeet Stack Overflow will buy you a jetpack!

Tweeted by codinghorror on December 16, 2010 at 5:44 PM in reply to jonskeet

Jin

thanks!

Tyler Chacha

Nothing here for me to do but dance..

Jesse Hartwick

@Fosco Thanks, but it's hardly an accomplishment. I just use SO for research a lot

drachenstern

stackoverflow.com/badges/223/copy-editor

> Edited 600 entries.

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Couldn't it have been during a badge resync though? (Which maybe happened after the Talkative issue) That, or you were imagining it :p

drachenstern

6:30 PM

That seems to be misleading text, shouldn't it be "Edited 600 entries that aren't your own"?

or is that just pedantics?

Michael Mrozek

@drachenstern Do your own not count?

Tyler Chacha

room topic changed to The Tavern (General): Nothing here for me to do but dance.

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek I was under the impression they didn't ... am I mistaken?

Michael Mrozek

@drachenstern I've never heard either way, but I would expect they do

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek I seem to recall something on the odata queries where the calculations were for non-self edits

idk, I'll have to pay more explicit attention to my own editings

Tyler Chacha

6:32 PM

room topic changed to The Tavern (General): Nothing here for me to do but dance. All these bad times I'm going through, just dance!

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone yeah, no clue.

drachenstern

reckon it counts on comment self-edits or just questions and answers?

Tim Stone

@drachenstern The SEDE queries for those counts basically don't work. :P

It's "real" edits on questions/answers, I think.

drachenstern

@TimStone well that sucks :(

Rebecca Chernoff

145 seems to be my highest day. Meh, I fold. Doesn't really matter anyway.

Jesse Hartwick

6:35 PM

Editing badges are for body-edits on non-CW posts that are not your own. See here

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Oh, the transcript tells me that I was thinking of when you hit the rep cap on SO :P

Michael Mrozek

@JesseHartwick Ah, good find. The text does seem misleading then

Jesse Hartwick

Too bad there wasn't a decent way to track your progress.

You can use data.SX to find them, but that only goes back to the last dump, which is now more than a month out of date.

And even that wouldn't distinguish between tag edits and body edits.

Michael Mrozek

Unfortunately it looks like half that answer was sourced from here, which in turn drew from the SEDE query that the author said wasn't very reliable in the first place

The part about your own post was written by Jeff though, so we can probably assume that part is right at least

Jesse Hartwick

And it would only catch posts where you were the last editor, so if someone else edits after you, it wouldn't be caught in the query.

drachenstern

6:39 PM

@JesseHartwick exactly, hence we can't reliably track this ourselves

Jesse Hartwick

@drachenstern I think that there was a MSO question about it, and the official word was that was by design to stop people from making stupid, minor edits just to get the tag.

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone I hit the rep cap on SO?

lol

Huh, look at that.

Guess it was WA and SO, not WA and MSO.

whistles and hides.

Jesse Hartwick

@RebeccaChernoff Even better!

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Heheh :P

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff Way to support SO over MSO. Maybe you should go hang out in their chat rooms instead

Rebecca Chernoff

6:44 PM

heh

@MichaelMrozek, aren't you itching to ask a question on Meta that I know the answer to? (;

(kidding)

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff I posted three questions in the last two days :P

I think Google has underestimated the number of tabs I open in a day: chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/…

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek You can stop world hunger. Better get on that.

Rebecca Chernoff

I've had that installed for a couple hours and already have 40 hehe

Tim Stone

checks WwF

Rebecca Chernoff

Hrm.

looks around and wonders where her phone is.

Tim Stone

6:50 PM

I was actually more interested in whether @Fosco had played, since I think I'm one move away from finishing :P

But you can play too ;)

No need to do work or anything :p

radp

In other news, Maths elections end in 6 hours.

I wonder if we're going to do elections in turns or all together.

Tim Stone

@radp Will the site burst into flames once the elections are done?

Rebecca Chernoff

I'm not sure it would surprise me. (;

radp

@TimStone Obviously.

Tim Stone

@radp Hm, if that happens, Jin will have to add a little more red to the design.

Rebecca Chernoff

6:55 PM

Yeah, I want to see a site design with blood splatter. Heh.

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Tim Stone

Where's that image that Dan Grossman posted the other day? We'll make that the background.

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff The firearms proposal is in commitment :)

Rebecca Chernoff

Heh.

Jesse Hartwick

I gotta go meet up with the wife.

Later dudes. S you in your A's. Don't wear a C. And J all over your B's.

Tim Stone

\o/

Rebecca Chernoff

7:06 PM

I have absolutely no clue what that said. I'm not sure I want to know either.

Jesse Hartwick

It's from It's Always Sunny.

►

Rebecca Chernoff

noooooooooo

GG @TimStone

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Aye, well played. I got lucky at the end, heheh :)

Rebecca Chernoff

My last 4 letters were GGNT. Not cool.

Tim Stone

Ouch. I was a little worried about getting that VHFT nonsense, but there were spots to push them in, heh.

Not as bad as my game with @drachenstern where I got Q, J, Z, and X... x_x

radp

7:11 PM

@TimStone just arrange them to forge a MS Office product key. They are acceptable in poetry, so why not use 'em in scrabble too.

Tim Stone

Hahah

Fosco

@TimStone I haven't played, left the ipad at home today..

Tim Stone

@Fosco Ah, you're being productive instead? I suppose I can support that ;)

I'm sitting in another teleconference, starving, hahah.

Fosco

@TimStone I should've resigned on my last play last night, and started a new one

Tim Stone

shrugs No rush :) Hahah, 'ello @drachenstern ;)

Ah good, time for food.

Fosco

7:23 PM

@radp Roses are red, violets - blue... FCKGW... Oh how I love you... RHQQ2

^ This is not a love poem directed at @radp.

Jin

matthewhollett.com/favimon

Michael Mrozek

@Fosco If you say so

Jin

i'm gonna battle the SE sites favicons!

Michael Mrozek

Increased size has not been flattering for the SO icon:

Jin

or all the sites

radp

7:28 PM

aw, gaming's has 3 hearts

it should've been one!

Jin

unless the site uses a higher res favicon, but typically it's just 16x16 px

radp

To be honest IE9 gives sites a reason to consider high res favicons.

Rebecca Chernoff

favimon?

drachenstern

7:44 PM

> +1, I can't even count the number of times I haven't uploaded an image to the web. Very useful answer. – Andy E

-9

Q: preventing site visitor from saving site images and disable right click

Possible Duplicate: How to prevent downloading images and video files from my website hi i want to disable the context menu in my site images and prevent the site visitor from saving this images how can i do that using javascript?

javascript

Jin

i wonder how they pull the action names from the site. based on keywords? pretty accurate

Michael Mrozek

I was wondering that too; it seemed like they make some effort to match up action names with what they do too, unless that was just a coincidence when i tried it

drachenstern

@TimStone that's just sneakiness

Tim Stone

Funny story involving me having mostly all vowels...

drachenstern

That is funny, I'm currently trying to block your ninjaness from TW

> Transaction (Process ID 61) was deadlocked on lock resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock victim. Rerun the transaction.

damnit

Tim Stone

7:52 PM

It actually calls it the "deadlock victim"? While the scenario is rather unfortunate, props to whoever wrote the error message. :P

mootinator

@drachenstern Dairy Queen does this to no purpose but much to my annoyance.

Tim Stone

shakes fist at Dairy Queen

drachenstern

@TimStone one would presume a Microsofty ;)

Marc Gravell

better than "nahnah, you lose! better luck next time, fool!"

mootinator

@TimStone No, really. They send these 2 for 1 blizzard coupons every so often by email which only load once, then if you right click them looking for a print option it just oads a new page and disappears.

Tim Stone

7:59 PM

@mootinator Wow, that's really messed up. I want a free Blizzard :(

drachenstern

What's more messed up is my <prtscn> button

Michael Mrozek

I swear the house ad about making bacon powder is glitched so it shows up 10x as often as the other ads

If somebody ever asks me how to make bacon powder I'm not going to say "search on cooking.SE", I'm going to say "go to SO and refresh two or three times; you'll see the link on the right"

Tim Stone

8:13 PM

I've never had to make bacon powder. Clearly I'm cooking incorrectly.

Jin

@MichaelMrozek i have nothing to do with that.. really.

Tim Stone

smells the bacon conspiracy frying It's in the pan, ladies and gentlemen.

Jin

Hog Gate

Tim Stone

Heheh :P

drachenstern

8:59 PM

Interesting link this: projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer ~~ Zoom all the way out.

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mootinator

Interesting indeed.

drachenstern

I didn't realize the US was really that sparseley populated. I would love to see that data overlayed with subtle shading for geographical features (like Deserts in NV, CA) or mountain ranges.

Hell, even the interstates would be an interesting addition

radp

9:15 PM

The kent county looks eventful.

Estimated population: 703

mootinator

I like how "the middle of nowhere" is majority white, until you get to the really, really remote areas where it's majority other.

drachenstern

Kent County where?

@mootinator usually Native American... also, that's pretty much what its like driving through areas that aren't the Deep South...

radp

@drachenstern Dunno, I found it while idly hovering somewhere on the map

mootinator

@drachenstern Yeah, the same is true up here.

radp

Kent County, Texas

Kent County is a county located in the U.S. state of Texas. In 2000, its population was 859. Its county seat is Jayton, and the county is named for Andrew Kent, who died at the Battle of the Alamo. Kent County is one of 30 prohibition or entirely dry counties in the state of Texas. History Timeline *8000 b.c. Paleo-Indians first inhabitants. Later native American inhabitants include the Wanderers band of Comanche. *1872 Ranald S. Mackenzie and his soldiers trounce the Comanches at Treasure Butte, southeast of Clairemont. *1876 The Texas legislature forms Kent County from Young and Bex...

This one'll do

drachenstern

9:18 PM

there's dry counties in Texas?

wow, reading the bios for the counties surrounding that one, the others all have at least twice the population for the same area ...

I also admire how all the counties are roughly squared and they all have the same size in sq.mi.

mootinator

In that case, Kent is like the Texas version of where I live, lol.

868 population, illegal to sell (but not consume) alcohol.

radp

9:36 PM

0

Q: How to insert Code Sample in Tumblr

How to insert Code Sample in Tumblr? Any suggestions?

insert code sample tumblr

Webapps?

ChrisF

I wouldn't have thought it would get much traction there, but I might be wrong

Zypher

eh answered

radp

I wish I had those 400 more reps on SO to close stuff there, except I can hardly find questions I can answer anymore.

@Zypher Cool, didn't know Tumblr did Markdown too.

(Still, not an SO question.)

Zypher

yep, maybe i'll move off the 101 rep

let it get a few upvotes

then i'll NEVER ask for a rep recalc mwahahaha

user152426

are there any youtube videos explaining SE, how to use it, etc? For noobs?

Zypher

9:41 PM

@user152426 no official one

Michael Mrozek

@user152426 Gaming did one at one point, but unofficially

radp

I started making one, then it stalled

It needs a voice actor and some timing tweaks

►

user152426

I think it would be great is SE did a professionally done intro video, like google does for its projects, like google voice

radp

Eh, we could wait for SO to do it, or we could make one ourselves. I guess the latter works faster.

Michael Mrozek

@radp That's the one I was thinking of; I didn't realize you made it

user152426

9:44 PM

I would be willing to help; perhaps with scripting the dialog?

Michael Mrozek

I always thought meta did a pretty good job of explaining things, particularly the [faq] tag. I thought the video was neat but not entirely necessary

ChrisF

@radp That's very good. You were right about the timing though. I did manage to spot a couple of spelling mistakes as the slides whizzed by ;)

radp

@ChrisF I'm not on Windows so I can't fix them right now, but if you comment on the video page itself I shouldn't forget about them.

Still, I don't want it to be longer than 3 mins, with 2 mins being optimum.

ChrisF

@radp I can't remember any specifics so would a "don't forget to check the spelling" do?

radp

AskUbuntu made a 10 mins long introduction, if you have the patience.

ChrisF

9:47 PM

Apart from the example questions (and the style!) it could be used for any site.

radp

@ChrisF that'll do, if you are more specific than that I can award your effort with a bounty. :)

Speaking of reps... gah, 5,999 rep.

user152426

with that example video above, I think the slides go to quickly; you cannot read them all in time

radp

@user152426 Honestly, the slides are overdetailed.

You aren't really meant to read those examples, e.g.

user152426

well, as a somewhat new user to Area 51, I am trying to get new people involved, but I am exhausted from trying to explain SE over and over again

I think a video would help with that

radp

You may want to make an Area51 specific addendum then.

user152426

9:50 PM

meaning?

radp

Explaining people quickly how Area51 works

user152426

sure; but even a simply SE one would be great too

if I can help (having little video editing experience) in someway let me know

radp

Area51
→ Community Building Site
→ Make awesome Q&As for FREE
Three steps to success
→ DEFINE the Q&A you want to make
→ COMMIT for its success
→ BUILD it from the ground up
Definition phase
→ Decide who this site is for
→→ Too broad and there will be too much noise
→→ Too specific and there won't be enough people
→ Decide what's your topic
→→ Make examples of great, expert questions
→ Decide what's not your topic
→→ Questions your user base wouldn't be able/willing to answer

etc.

Rebecca Chernoff

I don't think I'm gonna make the rep cap. ):

(and no that isn't a plea, so don't go downvote me, hehe)

radp

@RebeccaChernoff What's the problem? You want your reps eaten by the StackExchange™ EqualOpportunity ReputationSink™?

ChrisF

9:56 PM

@RebeccaChernoff I hardly ever hit the cap, I think I'm barely half way to Epic on SO and not yet in double figures anywhere else

Rebecca Chernoff

Yeah, I haven't hit it on meta

ChrisF

I've got Mortarboard on most sites I'm active on - apart from UI I think, but that's it

Rebecca Chernoff

SO and WA for me. I should try on the others. (;

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff I don't think I am either, and I started closer than you :)

Oh, I actually did make it. Pity retracted

radp

Ah, you and your caps.

@MichaelMrozek I feel pity for you, upvotes in the next 2 hours will be worthless!

So this is a great moment to upvote him.

Michael Mrozek

10:02 PM

Unlike @RebeccaChernoff, I'm not in this for your tawdry "reputation"; it's all about the warmth I feel inside knowing I helped someone

Also unlike @RebeccaChernoff, I lie on a pretty constant basis

radp

@MichaelMrozek I checked your rep before and after the upvote.

Michael Mrozek

That little [0] is so unholy...

radp

I told you the rep cap is nothing to be proud of :(

Michael Mrozek

@radp You upvoted the footer icons post? Bold move

radp

@MichaelMrozek Well I do agree with it

Gaming during the public beta had 5 lines of links in the footer.

Icons may not be awesome graphically, but the alternative is 5 lines of links

The alternative is removing the links, but that'd reduce our google-fu.

drachenstern

10:07 PM

@MichaelMrozek what [0] are you guys discussing?

Michael Mrozek

@drachenstern When you hit the rep cap the reputation audit page shows [0] instead of (10) or (5) for the amount of rep you earned from an upvote

Tyler Chacha

yay, my websit is back up!

radp

Somebody give me an antistar

Rebecca Chernoff

It would be cheating to empty-edit a post so that I can remove a downvote and get the 1 rep point I need to hit the cap...right? >_<

radp

@RebeccaChernoff Yes, so find a reason to edit it legitimately :)

Spelling, formatting, ...

Michael Mrozek

10:10 PM

@RebeccaChernoff I would upvote you, but I'm trying to avoid hitting the fraud detector :)

Pekka

There's always a speling error somewhere

Rebecca Chernoff

@radp I already looked. (;

Tyler Chacha

@RebeccaChernoff What do you want me to upvote?

radp

@RebeccaChernoff You didn't look hard enough!

Pekka

Give a link. I'll find you a legit reason

radp

10:10 PM

@Pekka The irony :P

Michael Mrozek

@TylerChacha She would love for you to upvote all of my posts

Pekka

@radp purpose, my friend, purpose!

radp

@Pekka Then you wouldn't have edited...

Pekka

@radp Clever thinking, but I edited "Theres" into "There's"

To have exactly one error

Rebecca Chernoff

Yeah, what @MichaelMrozek said.

rolls her eyes.

Michael Mrozek

10:11 PM

It looks like she already hit it anyway

@RebeccaChernoff I'm going to start ending all my demands with "@RebeccaChernoff wishes it"

Get me a bagel! @RebeccaChernoff wishes it

Pekka

Is that the new sudo?

radp

Speaking of which... where's @PopularDemand?

Rebecca Chernoff

@MichaelMrozek oy.

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drachenstern

which site is the upvote in question on?

Pekka

Probably Atheism.

ChrisF

10:14 PM

I've hit the far too frequent problem that when I try to view my accounts page on any site the browser stops responding and I can't view any new SE page for the next 5 minutes or so

Rebecca Chernoff

ahem

Dec 12 at 8:21, by Jeff Atwood

you guys have got to stop starring all "Oy" messages

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff You're lucky there's no star cap; you'd hit it every day

@ChrisF I've not seen that

Tyler Chacha

oy....

ChrisF

I reported it on MSO a while back, but it turned out to be a dupe. I forgot to star the original though so I can't link to it :(

Tyler Chacha

→ 1 message moved to The Trash Heap

ChrisF

10:23 PM

Need a MSO mod to check my profile for deleted questions and post the link ;)

Rebecca Chernoff

@TylerChacha Why do you bother with moving messages?

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff I'm not sure why you bother asking questions anymore :)

Tyler Chacha

Interesting, you can't migrate a message to the same room it originated in..

Rebecca Chernoff

@MichaelMrozek ):

Hmm. The Atheism chat room is on this server, not chat.SE?

ChrisF

Because it's in private beta?

Michael Mrozek

10:27 PM

It was made by mfg; he probably just didn't know better

Tyler Chacha

Meta.Chat really only has 1 - 2 active chat rooms

Fosco

@rchern cakes > pies

Rebecca Chernoff

There's a room on chat.SE also

@Fosco Not when you don't have the letters for cake, but you do have the letters for pie.

Tim Stone

Nothing like a good ol' alphabet pie

Tyler Chacha

Cheesecake is a pie misnamed a cake, and Botton Cream Pie is a cake misnamed as a pie!

Tim Stone

10:48 PM

yawns It has been an extreme exhausting week, meh.

radp

3

A: Careers: finding offers that might consider visa sponsorship?

As far as I know, unless you have some sort of seriously important reputation and/or have a unique skill set that cannot be found in the US you are basically out of luck. Though in not as bad a shape as the general job market the general programming market is a buyer's market at the moment. There...

Awesome answer, horrible contents.

I'm so glad I'm not entertaining the idea of working in the US anyway. :P

drachenstern

@TimStone come over to my place this weekend, I'll get you good and tired.

Tim Stone

I am....not sure how to respond to that.

drachenstern

Moving from house to apt on friday night -> saturday am, then sunday am driving to DFW airport (a mere 7 hour drive minimum round trip) to take a friend to the airport. it's cheaper to drive 7 hours than to fly from this airport to DFW. Unless someone has miles and wants to donate them :D

@TimStone sorry, I'm a slow typist apparently :p ~ I realized I had left it dangling too late

Tim Stone

Ah ha, I gotcha now. :P

drachenstern

11:03 PM

I'm not to humble to not ask again :p

Anybody have extra air miles they would be willing to part with and I'll pay the associated fees to get a ticket from SHV to DFW?

well it was worth an ask ;)

Tim Stone

For someone who used to travel so much, I think my miles have all dried up. :( I really need to separate myself from the desk more often I guess..

Huh..

drachenstern

is it sad that I didn't know facebook went down today till I read twitter/

Tim Stone

"Hello, this a message from __ Power. We will be making a visit to your residence in the near future to remove a communication device from your gas meter...."

Facebook went down today?

drachenstern

Interesting, wonder why they are removing the device ... normally it's to add one so they don't have to come in the yard anymore

Tim Stone

They said that it didn't meet their technical specifications.

drachenstern

11:10 PM

hmmm

Tim Stone

But I don't really know what they're referring to, since someone comes out to manually check the meter each month.

I wish they did it digitally, as the meter itself has those annoying dials, and they always read them incorrectly since it's behind a thorn bush for some unknown reason.

drachenstern