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Hahah

Meh, I've suffered enough today. Back to video gaming, where imaginary characters do the suffering.

@PopularDemand Enjoy

currently installing AsyncCTP on main dev machine and wondering whether it was a good idea ;)

Why not? :P

6:31 AM

G'morning @MarcGravell

6:41 AM

@TimStone dunno, it took an awful long time ...

Ah, gotcha. What is it, exactly?

'Ello @radp, @YiJiang

@TimStone 'ello

@TimStone, ctp for C#5, funky stuff for hiding the complexities of asynchronous coding

sort-of hiding, I get the feeling that there will be icebergs

Ah, .NET voodoo, nifty. ;)

So what's the story on the pundit padge?

6:45 AM

@waffles made it 10/+5 instead of 10/+10, and..that's about it, heh.

Oh. Hmmm... 5 score.. well, yeah, that's lame

Even I could get one. Hehe...

Hah :P

Before the adjustment, I think that only three of the gold badges had less recipients than that one did, which seems a bit off since it's silver.

@TimStone I thought it was one of the Only on Stack Overflow™ things, you know, because of the traffic and all

7:13 AM

The revival badge is introduced.... and Jeff promptly gets thirty of them. Hehe...

I got Revival and 4 more badges.

My profile page says, Revival ×3

gah. Now what's the fourth badge, and why do I care?

@radp I'm guessing pundit

Oh. Yeah. Good point. (WTF?)

Oh, Pundit requirements lowered.

Later.

$.getScript('http://timeago.yarp.com/jquery.timeago.js', function(){
    $('.relativetime').timeago();
});

Brilliant. This makes SO and co. so much better...

It's also great for the chat sidebar - now all of the time are automatically updated.

7:30 AM

@YiJiang, ctrl+up not working for me, have I broken something? :)

again

@Benjol Sorry, ctrl+up was totally @TimStone's doing. I'm not completely familiar with that part of the code yet

@YiJiang, ok, I'll take a dive into the code then. My js is rusty, and my jquery is non-existant, and I've lost my public key for github. Apart from that, everything should be fine ;)

Q: jQuery: Given a selector, find only its visible elements

@Benjol Eh... This is my first time using github, I have no idea what that public key thingy is used for, so far I've managed to wipe out my own work twice with git, and have even caused a regression in the code by not merging properly

So hey, we're not that far apart :P

Old question that need to be closed as dupe:

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Hi all, This should be an easy one. I have a variable that I've already declared called $listItems. The declaration looks like this: var $listItems = $ul.children('li'); // $ul is just a selected unordered list Later in my code, I'd like to only get the ones that are currently visible. How wo...

@YiJiang, is it just me, or is the oldHighlights bug still in there?

@Benjol Should be fixed, lemme check @rchern's last commit

No, apparently not. I'll update and push my repo and open a pull request for that then

7:45 AM

is ctrl+up working for you?

@Benjol Old version here, so yes

ok

7:57 AM

@Benjol Just updated to the latest version, and it still works. Is there any error messages?

hangon, I'll look

apart from oldHighlights is not defined, no :)

weird... working on chat.so, but not here...

just switched to another room and back, and works here now. so, no idea

maybe my F5s weren't hard enough

@Benjol ctrl+F5 to bust your cache, though I don't think GM scripts are actually cached by the browser, but still...

8:44 AM

@MarcGravell I seems that on SO (not sure about the other sites, but I'll check), every single answer I post since yesterday has triggered human verification.

Did you guys changed the algorithm for that or something? Because before that, that dialog seems to almost never come up for me.

Marc Gravell

I'm mainly "chat" at the moment; you'd need to ask on MSO

Q: Human verification appearing constantly after every new post

@MarcGravell Okay

I just got CAPTCHA on Meta too, when adding an answer to the Sandbox. Definitely a problem... hmmm

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Since yesterday, the human verification form has appeared consistantly with every new answer I post on Stack Overflow (5 so far) and Meta Stack overflow (confirmed by posting to the Sandbox question). This has not happened before - The CAPTCHA has appeared very rarely for me. It does not appear f...

bug captcha

9:06 AM

@YiJiang, no probs for me :)

9:30 AM

@YiJiang I changed the plugin to be more SO-ish

however there should be a check so that timestamps older than three days aren't touched at all. :/

I just realised what an idiot I was, and what caused the problems with the CAPTCHA

Damn I'm such an idiot ><

9:45 AM

tell all?

@Benjol I was lazy, and used $.ajaxSetup to change some global ajax options in my userscript. This obviously broke all of SO's existing ajax calls, and resulted in several... interesting effects.

ok

10:06 AM

gngn :(

11:58 AM

the new inspector in Chromium 9 is nice.

Very nice indeed.

@radp Screenshot? :)

Will you take a video instead?

It'll go live when I come back home.

hopefully.

later

@radp Erm.... sure, whatever.

Screenshots aren't as exciting.

cmon thingy, encode faster.

I hope it isn't overwriting anything...

21 secs...

Hehe... this arrived just in time for me: alistapart.com/articles/get-started-with-git

12:02 PM

dl.dropbox.com/u/1164414/SO/inspector%20chormium%209.ogv

A List Apart doing an article on git! Amazing, right?

@radp Erm... is the redrawing problem with the video capture software or with Chromium?

But you're right, the interface is very nice indeed

12:28 PM

@YiJiang Probably your codec?

bbl invalidating cookies :P

done.

mfg

hi all, just a quick question about rep; if i kill my askubuntu account, then relink it (for the 100 rep association, do i lose track of my questions?

@mfg You can reassociate; that will get you the hundred rep and shouldn't lose you any of your questions

2

Hurray!

balpha

you look sooo happy

mfg

@YiJiang thanks! i was trying to find this question in the meta and the 900 other questions about rep were kind of crowding it out

balpha

12:42 PM

enough is enough :)

fits

I went for black too, but no picture yet. :P

gah, what a wonderful thing to be greeted at when i sit down at the computer @YiJiang ):

+1 @balpha!

Awww.... if you send me a T-Shirt I promise I'll stop :)

@TimStone - Yea, but I said "small" thinking I would get American small which is like EU large. It is actually quite small hehe

12:44 PM

Heheh

Good quality tho.

12:54 PM

Hey @rchern, pull my bugfixes, will ya?

Did you look at the changes in the pull request? Seems like you're removing things you shouldn't be

@TimStone Me too -- go team. I don't have a camera, so no awesome pictures for any of you

@rchern Hmmm?

github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts/pull/17 look at the changes there

looks like you're removing the history command among a few other things

Hahah

12:57 PM

@rchern That's odd. Erm...

@YiJiang, @rchern, while you're at it, might I propose this:

timestamp = "| " + timestamp.getHours() + ":" + (timestamp.getMinutes() < 10 ? "0" + timestamp.getMinutes() : timestamp.getMinutes());

I'm a fan of some kind of separation too; I couldn't find a way to get multiple lines to look good, but I still use it locally because I prefer it to one line that runs together

ohhh yeah, let's make it even longer

@YiJiang will love it!

@rchern, nah, it's shorter cos I lopped off the seconds

It's two characters :)

1:00 PM

Oh, wait a minute. -1 then, I heart my seconds

^ The only response possible

ohhh, you did. i'm not taking out the seconds >_<

But the seconds are the only way we know if we came close to causing a major collision! ;)

how else will @TimStone and I know how close we are to collisions!

hahahahaha

1:00 PM

Heheh

Does Javascript not have some form of sprintf? It seems like there must be a simple way to avoid using timestamp.getMinutes() three times in a single expression

Punches @rchern. Why do you need microsecond precision anyway?

@MichaelMrozek Save it in a variable, then use that three times :)

Perfect :P

@MichaelMrozek Yeah, hurt my eyes too

well, what the heck, try this instead, no extra characters: .text(id + "|" + timestamp)

(: needs spaces (:

but I'm not messing with my code if @YiJiang is fixing the pull request

1:05 PM

@MichaelMrozek Yeah @Yi's got a thing about two characters, (or was it three? :)

@Benjol punch

hahahaha

@YiJiang is rather violent this morning

@rchern Evening. Also, need spaces

@rchern, another thing I proposed, way up the transcript somewhere, was a toggling /hl

pro tip: discussing in chat is cool and all, but some things should be created as issues in github

1:07 PM

yeah, I know...

balpha

is that the @rchern version of "Belongs on meta"?

ha

no, I think it's :

status-bydesign

Morning everyone

'Ello

1:10 PM

Oh great. @TheUnhandledException is here. Time for me to leave.

Or maybe it's just time to go to work (;

LOL. I'll be quiet today @rchern :-)

hahaha, just kidding. Was typing out that I was leaving for work and couldn't resist

When I disagree with something I'm going to start pasting this instead of saying anything:

Hahahah

@rchern Haha. Have a safe trip to work :-)

@MichaelMrozek AHHH! Yikes. You know Halloween is over, right? ;-)

1:14 PM

@TheUnhandledException Be happy I didn't make the eyes spin in circles while blinking

@MichaelMrozek That would have been a sight indeed

Well... what next for that answer watcher? Hmmm...

Q: PDO::ATTR_AUTOCOMMIT ignores non-transactional INSERT/UPDATE

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Hello all, Been scratching my head on this for a while.... I have a PDO object with pdo->setAttribute(PDO::ATTR_AUTOCOMMIT,0); as I want to use FOR UPDATE with some InnoDB tables. Reading the MySQL documentation, FOR UPDATE will only lock read rows if: a) You are in a transaction b) You are...

php pdo

Pimping for answer

Someone voted to close as not a real question?

@TimStone - Don't ask me, wtf'd too

1:29 PM

@TimStone Weird. Hmmm... I have no idea on the subject topic, but it certainly looks legit

Crazy people, heh.

@YiJiang - of course it is legit, I asked it ... duh! :P

@AidenBell I don't know... sometimes I question your sanity... :P

If there's one thing we know about @AidenBell's questions, it's that they never get closed as NaRQ

@MichaelMrozek - Thanks for that

and the copious editing :P

Though that .... I question hehe

"are being ran" and "have been ran"

No you are right

1:34 PM

I don't think "have been ran" is ever valid

Must be because I live in England or something

English isn't the primary language there

:P

"they have been ran thousands of times"

Silly English, with your misspellings and poor pronunciation skills

@MichaelMrozek Of the Chinese language, of course :P

wot chu towkin abart? Inglish is well proper ova ere

►

1:37 PM

@AidenBell 你在讲什么？这里的中文讲的挺好的呀！

It is unfortunate that with IME, it's impossible to "misspell" Chinese

►

have an RP lesson on me

@MichaelMrozek - Don't use that useless prat as an example :S

►

Is what you were after

Q: Chrome only does garbage collection when minimized

Hmmm... interesting question:

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Short Version: Garbage collection works as expected in Firefox. In Chrome, garbage collection fails, except when the browser is minimized (and in some other cases - I've listed them in #2 below). Background: I'm currently working on an intranet site that (for now) makes use of the MochaUI librar...

javascript google-chrome garbage-collection javascript-library

1:58 PM

> Chrome's memory usage freezes (literally)

That must be a sight to see

haha

@MichaelMrozek Dunking your computer's RAM into liquid nitrogen should do the trick :P

wanders off to a three day conference

sounds....fun

@TimStone And what conference would that be?

2:09 PM

Did the cost of LINQPad double?

Good Morning

@YiJiang, pull complete

morning.

I figured out the login problem.

That doesn't fix @PopularDemand's observation that I committed twice, but I can log in again on SO.

what was the problem?

Basically, I logged in on my friends laptop and I guess I didn't log out, it seems.

When I logged in I was not able to see my account.

2:17 PM

Erm, you can login on multiple computers.

The problem was exclusive to SO

In fact, I'm logged in on 2 computers to SO now haha

I logged in yesterday and I was given the "you don't have an openID associated with this account".

So I clicked "create ..." and I got an account with 0 question, 101 rep etc.

...

well that's your problem

why would you click create LOL

I have logged in on multiple machines many times.

Well, why would it show me that?

It turns out that my friends oID was associated with my account for some reason. So I had him log in today and then I fixed the primary. I'd like to know how to remove the secondary.

2:20 PM

you should have never clicked create in the first place, oy.

Point is, I have my account back. Thank G-d!

now you'll have to email the team.

Oh god... the newsreader on the local Chinese channel just pronounced Kinect as kan-net

I did email them.

Also, was the message you saw Your OpenID does not have an account on Stack Overflow yet: and If you think you already have a Stack Overflow account, and you were just trying to associate a new OpenID with your existing account, you're in the wrong place.

2:21 PM

Right now I have my account I just need to get the second oid removed.

hint: they want you to be careful when you click create per the language the page uses.

Yes, and true.

You were probably logged in to your open id provider incorrectly

I was just able to trigger that message by logging in to a different GMail account and trying to login to SO

I was logged in as my friend.

You could have avoided this by logging out and logging in as you.

There's a reason the page says "wait, you probably don't want this!"

sorry, but heh.

2:23 PM

Time for another in this long running series of "WHY DID WE TRUST @RCHERN!?":

2

That must have been it. The odd thing is that the second OpenID account - his Facebook is now my secondary OID.
I thought I logged out.

6

um, long running series?

@rchern Second in the series! Why? Why do you ask?

@Moshe, basically, you took the worst possible action you could've taken. (;

I mean, it can be fixed, but silly. (;

2:42 PM

@YiJiang what th- lol...

@TheUnhandledException The image was found, appropriately enough, on the Wikipedia page for "Error"

@YiJiang HA! Makes my code's errors seem like warnings, if not notices

@TheUnhandledException

Neighborly suggestion: remove this reference to a null pointer. You know, if it's not too much trouble. I can just deal with it if you don't have time.

haha

As opposed to Error: multi-thousand dollar locomotive just burst out of the wall of a building, probably destroying both

var SuperCollidingDropDown = $('#seWrapper')

Thanks goodness this variable is only used three times

2:51 PM

@YiJiang, re your suggestion to fork, I did but now I can't get git to clone through a proxy $&*%£*$

@Benjol Erm... networking and git, two of my greatest nemesis, combined together. If I were you I'd be running out of the door, screaming, right now

hmmmm. Researching HTML in XMPP messages, it turns out that the <body> of XMPP messages must be text only. However, XMPP messahes can have an additional <html> element which can contain XHTML.

Looks like I can include , <a>, <blockquote>, and <img>, but not <div>...

@YiJiang I will be, in 5 minutes :)

I'll do some experimenting with this :-)

Apropos of nothing, I saw this the other day and thought you Tavern people would eat it up:

3:00 PM

NOM NOM NOM

@PopularDemand You were correct

@PopularDemand Ney, it doesn't cover cookies. Ha ha... ha.... ha.....

@YiJiang instantrimshot.com

@PopularDemand Ah ha

@rchern when you return, feature request for your userscript:

badp@delta:/tmp/test/bin$ python ./test
Attempting to use font at size 50
*** glibc detected *** python: corrupted double-linked list: 0x09da2438 ***

Add a way to send instant rim shots to others

3:02 PM

._.

@TheUnhandledException github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts/issues

@TheUnhandledException We'll just replace the notification sound with that I think

Too many bad jokes flying around here

@YiJiang yes, even better :-)

Again, I would strongly consider using this script if /rimshot and /sadtrombone were implemented.

Create an issue (:

3:05 PM

They can't work for people not running the script, @Pop

(not in a sane way)

Well, depends on what the expected behavior is.

@radp It's alright, we'll just replace the notification sound with those two

@radp You mean "people who don't matter"? (That feature will make the script a must-have.)

Just embed the rimshot signals at the beginning of the sent text. That's worked out great in the past

@YiJiang I said, who don't have it.

3:06 PM

is reading up on the documentation right now: happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/latest/…

@MichaelMrozek I could never truly see it in action :(

I did have it on my computer, though.

@radp Yeah, it's for you only! So we'd just assume that everything everyone say in here is a bad joke. (Which it is, eh?)

Mmmhmmm... looks like I need both a mp3 and a ogg version

Hmmm, the ui for labels on github is a bit broken

@rchern Create an issue (:

<_<

I can't change the colors or apply a label to an issue

3:10 PM

hmmm

I really should learn more about github someday

is looking through Wikimedia commons for a suitable sound file

heh, IE and FF don't even have the dropdown working on the labels

@TheUnhandledException, separated at birth?

ToreTrygg

475 1 6

windows-7 linux download audio windows-vista applications ubuntu

They might be from the same company

Why can't we have cubes that are complete, instead of those deconstructing/constructing half-done/half-undone things!!

3:21 PM

someone should look at the bug report I made a week ago

I got tumbleweed badge on it :/

@radp it's a metaphor for open source

@statuscompleted Feature request: "tumbleweed" --> "tumbleweek"

@Fosco double exclamation point.

Q: Duplicated question in the Stack Exchange "tagged questions / my tag set".

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The new feature that allows you to view question for all the Stack ExchangeTM website is really nice. The only thing that bugs me is that when you follow multiple tag and question are tagged with more than 1 tag that you follow, they show up more than once with the exact same link to the question...

bug questions stackexchange

Q: Revival: Post is no longer available

Irony: Revival - the post you revived is no longer available

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I received two revival badges but one of them says 'Post is no longer available'. http://stackoverflow.com/badges/837/revival?userid=61974 If the post was deleted why was I awarded the badge in the first place?

bug revival

3:24 PM

Sounds more like "The thing you revived is now dead"

@statuscompleted Bump it by swapping out TM with The Real Trademark™

It's dead, Jim.

@statuscompleted Upvoted. But I wonder if it's "a feature, not a bug!"

Stack ExchangeThe Real Trademark TM

No mark up in the chat ?

@statuscompleted No, waddya expect?

It's the same as the comments

3:27 PM

ah, that's sad, I should a feature request

Because erm... you know, we could go on and on and on and on and on and on...

Well that works in the question

@YiJiang Used to be in Formatting Sandbox; I think it crashed too many browsers, though.

@PopularDemand Hmmm? I thought I saw it there a while ago

3:47 PM

@PopularDemand, did you see my message to you from last night?

@rchern I am restarting the XMPP script to test new changes, you may get kicked out of the room, or may have to leave/join/leave/join to get it working again after I restart

@rchern Er... no? Searching now.

Found it.

Ah, that. Jeff explicitly told me to post that as an answer to his question.

Oct 22 at 16:29, by Jeff Atwood

@PopularDemand I don't think so, that'd be a request, put it as an answer to the meta q

|:

Thanks though!

but @waffles said!

lol

3:52 PM

@rchern King of diamonds outranks Jack of diamonds.

Also notice that question has gotten 0 activity.

Q: Please add wildcard support to the StackExchange™ GlobalTag MegaBlender™

@rchern I suppose they're not mutually exclusive. I'll make it a feature request.

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This is an intentional re-post of this answer because waffles said so. The existing boxes for adding "interesting" and "ignored" tags supports wildcards. For example, entering "*friday*" will highlight all of [always-friday-in-iceland], [always-hydrogen-on-friday], [thank-fsm-its-friday] &am...

feature-request stackexchange.com globaltag-megablender

@PopularDemand you have officially baptise this new feature

Hello

Quickly, we need a brave soul to be sent on a suicide mission to retroactively apply the [globaltag-megablender] tag to General Atwood's original announcement

4:03 PM

@YiJiang I happen to be touching my nose.

@Chacha102 'sup Bobby?

......

@Chacha102 Hello Robert

My name is Tyler....

I know that.

@Chacha102 Do you actually dislike "Bobby"?

4:05 PM

no...

Nicknamed!

little bobby tables we call him

@YiJiang send me a link to that question, ill retag it

mmm... cubano pannini.

you're making me hungry ):

hehehehe

that had better results, didn't it @PopularDemand

Q: Cross-site tag sets are live: feedback?

4:14 PM

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On http://stackexchange.com -- assuming you are logged in via global auth -- we now support cross-site "tag sets". That is, you can set up a stream of tagged questions on a single site, or across multiple sites. Like so: You can also browse other people's tag sets, so feel free to set up tag ...

discussion stackexchange feedback tag-sets

Alright, who was it that volunteered just now?

for what?

12 mins ago, by Yi Jiang

Quickly, we need a brave soul to be sent on a suicide mission to retroactively apply the [globaltag-megablender] tag to General Atwood's original announcement

hmmm ..

it appears to already be there

@rchern It did.

(;

4:22 PM

For anyone who cares, the XMPP script is back up, not with an event-driven poller which sends edit messages

having it event driven will allow me to populate the XMPP user list with the SO users in the chat